Ep. 48 - Ethan Rosuck - Local Meteorologist
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Ethan Rosuck is a meteorologist at Fox 59 and CBS4 in Indianapolis. Michael sits down with Ethan at Chicago Beef and Dog Company in Irvington to talk about building friendships in a new city, Jewish identity and culture, Indianapolis's local food scene, and what it's like to love your niche career.
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Timestamps
0:43 — Intro
1:46 — Ethan's career as a meteorologist and moving to Indianapolis
5:22 — Being the instigator of friendship and community
11:43 — Turning 30, relationships, and slowing down
20:41 — Jewish geography, cultural identity, and bagel snobbery
34:10 — Indianapolis's local food scene: Side Door Bagel and Bohdi
44:49 — Canned questions
54:26 — Question from previous guest Jay Grillo
1:00:41 — Question for the next guest
1:01:23 — Where to find Ethan
Episode Transcript
Ethan Rosuck
Ethan Rosuck: [00:00:00] You're getting this, and I'm joining you for coffee. I And I said, okay. And then we start exchanging stories. Jewish geography. It exists.
Michael Zarick: Can you explain that definition? Can you define that?
Ethan Rosuck: He said to me, Ed Schwartzman, when does an old guy from Brooklyn ever let you down?
And I said, never because that's my grandfather, my dad's dad, old guy from Brooklyn. Partially responsible for my existence in life. no, Jewish geography is basically, it's like, you know somebody who I know through multiple people and you somehow get there. Like
Michael Zarick: Hello, my name is Michael Zarick, and this is Third Space Indy in 1989. A man named Ray Oldenburg wrote a book called The Great Good Place. And in this book, he coined the term Third Place. This describes a place outside of your home and outside of your work [00:01:00] that you can go be with others and build community.
So I've made it my goal to find people all over Indianapolis who are doing their very best to create those types of places. I am here today at the Chicago Beef and Dog in Irvington. Oh, Chicago Beefing Dog Company.
Ethan Rosuck: Yes.
Michael Zarick: In Irvington with a very good friend of mine, uh, who works for the local news, is a very loud and proud Jewish man, but-
Is the only Jewish man I've ever met in my life who does not like Lox bagels.
Ethan Rosuck: I know. I'm getting ridiculed for that my whole life.
Michael Zarick: Uh- So that brings me to my guest today, uh, Ethan Rosuck, a meteorologist at Fox 59.
Ethan Rosuck: Hi, Michael.
Michael Zarick: Hello. Uh, I did mention that we were at, uh, Chicago Beef and Dog and we have been sitting with Dave for about, I don't know, it feels like an hour so far.
Ethan Rosuck: Let's use your
Michael Zarick: hours. Uh, just shooting the shit. Uh, and Dave offered us some free food today, which was very kind of him. Yes. [00:02:00] So I said, "I'm gonna let you run a quick ad. So Dave's
Ethan Rosuck: coming
Michael Zarick: over here."
David Cohn: Sure. Okay. I do like, uh, Lox and Bagels.
Ethan Rosuck: I know. Remember, I'm in the wrong here and I know it. It's not like I haven't tried.
So
David Cohn: we're here at Chicago Peace and Dog on, uh, East Washington right here in Irvington, um, where I believe that we've, uh, tried to create the space that we're talking about, um, or attempted to maybe, uh, a place with a social conscience.
Michael Zarick: Mm-hmm.
David Cohn: So, uh, and now we're gonna allow them to do their, uh, not a podcast right here at our place.
Ethan Rosuck: Yes.
Michael Zarick: Thank you, Dave.
Ethan Rosuck: Thank you.
Michael Zarick: Shout out to
Ethan Rosuck: Dave. Shout out to Jay.
Michael Zarick: The food was really, really good. I was starving in there.
Ethan Rosuck: Yeah. We both did not
Michael Zarick: eat. I don't know if that makes it a lie or not, but the food is amazing. So, uh, that was awesome. I, I really enjoyed talking about Dave, but, uh, let's talk about Ethan Rosuck.
Ethan Rosuck: Me.
Michael Zarick: Yeah. So for the people who may not know, can [00:03:00] you tell the people who you are, what you do and what you're about?
Ethan Rosuck: I'm a meteorologist at, uh, Fox 59 and CBS4 here in Indianapolis. Been here about three years, it'll be June 2023 when I moved here. Um, and I do the weather there. I'm a meteorologist and I'm basically living my dream that I've wanted to do since early middle school, something like that when I loved watching the meteorologists in the Chicago area because that's where I'm from.
The suburbs do the weather on TV and I just knew I wanna do that one day. Um, and we, you know, there were popular names like Tom Skilling, Jerry Taft, um, Jerry Taft, who has since passed away, but Tom Skilling just retired- Mm. ... from what is now our sister station WGN.
Michael Zarick: Yeah.
Ethan Rosuck: He was up there for decades and decades and decades.
And I just knew I wanted to do that one day and know I didn't know how much math would go into it because I'm not good at math. I had to redo calculus at Ball State a couple of [00:04:00] times, but-
Michael Zarick: You're not supposed to let people know that.
Ethan Rosuck: Oh, it's okay. No, no, trust me, it's okay. Um, but we're here now being able to live out my dream here in Indianapolis, a place that I thought I'd actually never get back to.
I didn't think I was ever gonna be moving back to Indiana after college ever. Um, I'm pleasantly surprised.
Michael Zarick: I have a question. Yeah. Quick, quick aside- Yeah, yeah. ... in regard to your Indiana experience.
Ethan Rosuck: Uh-huh.
Michael Zarick: How happy were you to leave Muncie? Am I allowed to say that? Of course
Ethan Rosuck: you are. I loved Ball State and the campus and everything around it.
Michael Zarick: Mm-hmm.
Ethan Rosuck: Um, made some of my best friends there. I still keep in touch with a lot of my professors, but, you know, Muncie has been, it's changed. It has changed even since I've ... Because I've been up there for several other times. Yeah. And I think it gets a bad rap.
Michael Zarick: Mm-hmm.
Ethan Rosuck: Um, sometimes rightfully so.
Michael Zarick: I think [00:05:00] a lot of places get bad rap.
Ethan Rosuck: Every city has it. Yeah. Um, it, but it has its own charm as a college town and a lot of history there too. I love a town with history. Indianapolis one, Muncie is a big one too with the Ball Brothers and the engineering. It's an old coal city, you know, it's, it's ... I think it's great and a lot of hidden gems.
That's what I love finding about every place.
Michael Zarick: Mm-hmm. so the other reason I was really, um, even though you begged to be on the podcast, which I do have to drag you for-
Ethan Rosuck: All I said was, when are you gonna have me on?
Uh- At least 10 times. So begging, asking politely 10 times, whatever you wanna call it.
Michael Zarick: Uh, but even though- I, someone has changed my opinion about advocating for yourself. I, I do think there is, um, something to be said about advocating for yourself as somebody who does that type of thing. But I think in the framing of the podcast, I've had someone else on who I've called this before, which is you are very much an [00:06:00] instigator of like friendship.
Yeah, especially in my life. Um, but in the lives of many people, you are the person who is the, uh, main driver of the, do you want to hang out text? Uh, and I think there's something very valiant about that. '
Ethan Rosuck: Cause it wasn't ... I used to not be like that.
Michael Zarick: Uh-huh.
Ethan Rosuck: Um, it actually all kind of happened when my parents moved to the current house where they live-
Michael Zarick: mm-hmm.
Ethan Rosuck: almost 20 years. Um, that's where I tell people I grew up in this house, not the first one.
Michael Zarick: Yeah.
Ethan Rosuck: I didn't really have a lot of friends where I grew up, uh, in the first schools I went to and, um, wasn't ... I didn't have the happiest of childhood in that ream.
Michael Zarick: Mm-hmm.
Ethan Rosuck: But then fifth grade happened and when we moved to this new house, new school, and I met my friend Glen, who I still talk to, to this day, from fifth grade, lives in Milwaukee suburbs now, I mean, from that day, it [00:07:00] kinda gave me the confidence that I can have friends and hopefully the relationship will go right back because it's a two-way street.
I will always be the person, if I wanna do something, I will ask. Um, and I think that has been a big thing here in Ind- Indiana, or Indianapolis since I moved here. Mm-hmm. We taught, we're in a business, I'm in a business where I talk for a living.
Michael Zarick: You sure
Ethan Rosuck: are. I talk for a living. Ah. So any chance I could do that more, I love telling stories, I love just talking about lot
I don't know, just every day. And so I think your assessment is correct, and I used to not be like that. That's what I think is wild. Um, and I wouldn't change it for the world. Yeah. And I hope my friends who are hopefully listening understand.
Michael Zarick: I know at least one who will.
Ethan Rosuck: That's right. Thank you. Um, to the one.
Michael Zarick: What do you think changed about you internally that like made you wanna be that, [00:08:00] the catalyst?
Ethan Rosuck: The catalyst of like wanting-
Michael Zarick: Hang- hang out. ...
Ethan Rosuck: like wanting to do things?
Michael Zarick: Yeah. Was it like a college moment or was it like- No. ... you being a meteorologist and having to hang out with your co-workers?
Ethan Rosuck: That was a part of it for sure because when you work in television and you work all these weird hours, the people you hang out with are your co-workers. Mm-hmm. And in my mind, it's why be rude to the people that you see multiple days a week. And I've made lifelong friendships from my previous job at my first station and here in Indy, Indy for sure.
And because we're all doing the same thing, working these weird hours. Sometimes my friends have to cover stories that I can't even imagine. We have to do wall to wall tornado coverage, going to see the damage. I mean, these are people, these are not ordinary jobs. They're very niche. My line of work is niche.
Yep. And I like to ... It's, it's also, it's nice to be [00:09:00] able to hang out with these people outside of work, but I think since moving to Indy specifically, kind of, kind of branch out a little bit where I've made some friends where it's not from news, I could tell people yes about my job and like what I do, but it's, I don't talk about it all the time.
Michael Zarick: Mm-hmm.
Ethan Rosuck: In my last market, and often, honestly, when I hang out with my family, you know, because they all wanna know like what we do- Yeah. ... and everything like that. And I don't mind. That's what it was. Um, but now I kind of like where I'm not talking about work all the time- ... And even though the weather does impact us every day, and I always will talk about it.
Michael Zarick: Yeah.
Ethan Rosuck: But you know what I mean?
Michael Zarick: Yeah.
Ethan Rosuck: Yeah. And I've always just ... I like doing things, but, but as now I'm, I just turned 30 this past year and I, I've, I think I've realized that I also kind of like having my do not disturb moments. Um, more, more, more than, more than before, because I was [00:10:00] always, I go, go, go, go, and I still am.
Definitely not as much as I used to be.
Michael Zarick: Hmm. I, uh, so I walked 13 miles ... I said this. You did. It's Tuesday. So I walked 13 miles two days ago, uh- My right foot hurts.
Ethan Rosuck: Yeah.
Michael Zarick: But my left foot feels ama- like perfect. And I'm just like, is this what old age is? Is it is this where my body starts? Like because sometimes my left knee hurts.
It's like you start to start, uh, your body just starts breaking down. And you're just like, oh my God. And I just like, uh, maybe that's what 30 is. Maybe that's what 40 is as a, your body just continues to, uh-
Ethan Rosuck: It is a weird- ...
Michael Zarick: Dave is just like nodding.
Ethan Rosuck: It, it, it, it ... Well, first off, yes, and it's just a, it's a ... I think I've just realized a lot of things.
Just like, wow, never take a day for granted, worry about, put effort toward the things that you know you are in control of.
Michael Zarick: Mm-hmm.
Ethan Rosuck: Don't overstress about other things. Working in news has made me [00:11:00] overstress about other things that I can't control.
Michael Zarick: Yeah.
Ethan Rosuck: But I've realized, I would say within the last couple of years specifically that I try not to.
It is easier said and done 100%, but it's just like one of those things where I have to knock on my head and remember that.
Michael Zarick: Yeah.
Ethan Rosuck: Um, because you're only on this earth for so long and you don't wanna get burnt out. So you, you're in control of your own destiny. Um, and no, I know- To an extent. And it's true, but every day is a, you know, live it up.
Michael Zarick: Yeah. Uh, what do you think of like ... One second. Let me pull it together.
Ethan Rosuck: It's okay.
Michael Zarick: So you ... It's been a while now. It's been over a year. You recently, uh, within the past year, uh, came into a relationship with a woman named Sarah.
Ethan Rosuck: Yes.
Michael Zarick: Uh, and I, I like [00:12:00] to think it's changed your life for the better. You just got back from Japan, which is kind of lit.
Ethan Rosuck: It was the best trip. Go there. In your life sometime. Just go to Japan.
Michael Zarick: Uh, how do you think, like, your, uh, interpersonal dynamic has changed with the way you interact with your friends after getting in a longer term relationship? I'm so removed from that, I don't even know. Like, I feel like Anna and I are so, um, intertwined at this point that it doesn't like ju-
Ethan Rosuck: You are.
Michael Zarick: Yeah.
Ethan Rosuck: Which is a good thing.
Michael Zarick: Yeah.
Ethan Rosuck: And I like to think that I've intertwined Sarah into my circle at, on, on a comfortable level.
Michael Zarick: Yeah,
Ethan Rosuck: I think so. Um, because she, she's an oncology nurse, which I could never imagine doing in a million years, and I give her credit for it. We both work these very odd schedules.
That's why our relationship is a bonus that it works out because we plan our days out a lot.
Michael Zarick: That makes sense.
Ethan Rosuck: Um, but we [00:13:00] all have these days where it's, it's good days, it's bad days from work. And I think her and I both have this understanding that we try not to bring home, work with us at home all the time.
Doesn't happen every day. But there, because there are some days where I'm just, where I'm like, I need to talk about what happened today and just rip everything to shreds or talk about how good of a day it was, you know? And same thing with her. Um, but this is my first, I would say, adult relationship, like, because I've, I've only had two, I had two other long-term girlfriends in my life.
Mm-hmm. One from high school into college and then one at my last station, um, for a couple years. And while they were both great, they were both very different, different stages of life. This is my first adult relationship, and it has taught me a lot of things, because not only am I just excited to be with her every day, what I realized is that there are [00:14:00] moments where, like I said, I could talk to a wall if I really try, because I talk for a living, but I realize that it's a real thing when her and I could just be in the room together watching our show and not say a word, and it's okay.
Michael Zarick: Yeah.
Ethan Rosuck: Um, she has also, she always likes to ask how my friends are doing, and, and then usually it comes, "We need to get together with them." And then do, do, do, okay, that's what she-
You're
Michael Zarick: both the instigators.
Ethan Rosuck: We are both the instigators. She ... Oh, me way more.
Michael Zarick: Oh.
Ethan Rosuck: 100%. That will be the story of the rest of our life, I think.
But, um, she has her group of friends that I've gotten to know really well, and they all live within Indy, and her family as well has been very important. Um, my family's all back in the Chicago area. My parents are still in the house I grew up in. My sister lives in north side of Chicago. Um, grandparents' cousins are all up there too.
We're very close. [00:15:00] Sarah's family is all here, all of them here. Yeah. And they have been very nice at inviting me into their home and doing things. I feel very comfortable around them. I mean, I did just go on a whole trip to Japan with them. And I was- You did do that. And I wa- and I was terrified because I had never, I'd only traveled, um, across the pond once.
Mm-hmm. I don't count going to, like, the Caribbean.
Michael Zarick: Let alone with your partner's family that you haven't really hung out
Ethan Rosuck: with. Correct. Um, it was an exp- I was so nervous, but it ended up being a great time. It's, it's easy. I, I feel like I can just be me without having to change anything. I feel like she hasn't had to change anything, and it's, it's really nice- Yeah.
and, and refreshing.
Michael Zarick: Actually, I like that you said that. I think that's really an interesting point about, uh, Anna and my relationship. I never felt like I had to change myself for her, but I have changed [00:16:00] because of her. Does that-
Ethan Rosuck: Yes. And that's, that was your question too. And then of course I just keep going.
Yeah. Um, I think I've changed for the better with Sarah for sure. I, I think I have been more aware of reading a room better.
Michael Zarick: Mm-hmm.
Ethan Rosuck: I will admit I had ... I still do. Sometimes I miss cues and things, not as much as I used to.
Michael Zarick: Yeah.
Ethan Rosuck: But it's taught me that reading a room, it's also taught me that sometimes it is okay to say no to plans, to just sit and do nothing, not only just to save money because that's a bonus, sometimes we need to, but, um, it's just better.
Sarah has kind of gotten me to, to step back a little bit because remember, like I said, I am road runner. Mimi, I go, go, go, go, go, go. Even Brian Wilkes, my chief meteorologist is like, "Ethan, you just show up." Like on Easter Sunday, him and his wife, uh, Giji, [00:17:00] they were at the fountain room in downtown Indy, and they texted me, "Hey, by the way, we're at the fountain room, not sure where you are.
I'm there 10 minutes later." Just because I was driving back from Easter.
Michael Zarick: I think you and I are very similar in that way. Uh, sometimes they'll be like- You can
Ethan Rosuck: show up.
Michael Zarick: Yeah. Well, I, there, this is a really common thing is I think there's the power of like yes that I don't think a lot of people take advantage of.
Like you get invited to a place and sometimes people invite you to a place without any expectation of you saying yes ever. And when you do, they go, "What?" And I think you and I are- You
Ethan Rosuck: have it where it's like, "What do you mean no?" Like, what? It's, and it's true and I don't, my, it, it, it ... I don't mind it necessarily.
Michael Zarick: Mm-hmm.
Ethan Rosuck: I used to be a big reader back in like school. I kind of stopped for years, college, you know, just college, but now I'm, I'm back into reading and I find it very relaxing and pleasant. I like to what I call pole rot at the pool, sit at- Do like to do
Michael Zarick: that.
Ethan Rosuck: Sit, sit at the pool and read and [00:18:00] bake. I'm like a girl, for sure.
That is like my girl.
Michael Zarick: Hey, we don't believe in gender roles here.
Ethan Rosuck: That's, oh, that's right. You're just like Ethan. That's just an Ethan thing. Ethanism.
Michael Zarick: Um,
Ethan Rosuck: does that answer your question, like from
Michael Zarick: what I- Yeah, I think so. I think, I think this sort of like a calming nature of a partner or like reeling you in a little bit, uh- And, and
Ethan Rosuck: she is
Michael Zarick: also a calming
Ethan Rosuck: presence.
Michael Zarick: As not a, as not a, you're taming the stallion type thing, but rather you're just, um, I, maybe it is taming the stallion, but but, uh, ra- but more so like, it's also, it's also good for you, like you need the recovery period to, um, be able to run free sometimes.
Ethan Rosuck: We've been going on a year and a half, Sarah and me and, um, every
It also just so happened to be my, that my schedule changed a little bit. Now I work mornings and the weekends, now I kind of need to go to bed earlier. I can't be up as late and I, and I turned [00:19:00] 30. This all happened within the, the, the, within a year, it was a lot of change and I don't handle change particularly well.
Um, like I get stressed about the big things sometimes- Yeah. ... because when I'm comfortable, I'm comfortable. There's a reason why I'm gonna be really sad when I move out of my apartment and get rid of the pool at the end of the summer. But I'm really excited for the house that we're going to be living in and because I'm doing it with someone that makes me comfortable and is kind of pushing me to get outside of my comfort zone a little bit, because I don't know if I would've done that before.
In, and in my job, TV, you know this with Anna, you have to move around a lot. You guys lived in Arkansas, it's away from home, it's away from your home. Um, for me, I didn't have to move far. I've been very lucky. I did my time at Ball State, got a [00:20:00] job in Rockford, Illinois at my first station where, or where I interned, and that's an hour and 10 minutes from my parents' house.
Now I'm here in Indy, a two and a half, three hour drive. I didn't have to move somewhere where I have to hop on a plane or take a cross country road trip. And I'm very lucky for that, but that's why Sarah's done it. She's moved around before. She's lived in West Virginia. She's lived in Oregon. She's lived in Georgia and New York too.
It's, it's made me realize that I, I, I have my bottled up things sometimes, but this is a nice gradual nudge-
Michael Zarick: Yeah. ...
Ethan Rosuck: knowing that I'm not alone to try and do new things.
Michael Zarick: Definitely. So you and I have a mutual friend who I should have actually reached out to to ask you a question. Uh, but Ed, I'm talking about Ed Fujawa, who's a local Indianapolis historian, also a previous- Awesome
Ethan Rosuck: dude.
Michael Zarick: previous guest of the podcast.
Ethan Rosuck: Yes.
Michael Zarick: Um-
Ethan Rosuck: And my podcast too.
Michael Zarick: Well, [00:21:00] I was gonna, we're gonna get there.
Ethan Rosuck: I have to plug that at some point.
Michael Zarick: Um, so you talk with Ed, he's a regular guest. He's not a, a mainstay, right? Well, he's a mainstay in that he comes on regularly. Correct. But, um, but he comes on to talk about weather history with you.
Ethan Rosuck: Weather history in Central Indiana. Him and Brian Wilkes, who has a wealth of knowledge of all weather events, especially here, he's been in Indy for 31 years, it'll be this summer. And he's also a, he's very good at dates and numbers and, and then Ed comes in with the geography aspect and they just mingle together and- What do
Michael Zarick: you think you bring?
Ethan Rosuck: Pizaz. Okay. No. Um, the reason I, I'm, I learn, I have to learn about it too. Um, I don't know about some of the, you know, I didn't know about the race day tornadoes in 2004 as much as Ed and Brian does. I didn't know about the upbreak 1974 at-
Michael Zarick: It's almost like on the job training.
Ethan Rosuck: It is [00:22:00] on the job training, but I produced the content.
Michael Zarick: That's pretty funny.
Ethan Rosuck: Ed is a wealth of knowledge.
Michael Zarick: So when you talk about-
Ethan Rosuck: And I'm gonna be reaching out to him too for a, a project I might ask him about because of this house I'm gonna be moving into is old.
Michael Zarick: Yeah.
Ethan Rosuck: I might have him find me some old things or where to, you know, like blueprints and stuff.
Michael Zarick: We'll get there.
Ethan Rosuck: Yeah, no. Sorry.
Michael Zarick: About the, about- I keep
Ethan Rosuck: going.
Michael Zarick: No, that's okay. We can, we can go whichever way you feel, but, um, to, to bring it to the theme of the podcast, like, what do you think of, uh, or what do you think about the way, like, weather and the history of weather, like, how, how would you tie that into, um, communities, I think.
Even just, like, to the point about, like, the ecosystem you live, like, Indianapolis is really unique in that. They would always say, like, we get all four seasons versus, like, you live in SoCal and my brothers walk outside in 65 degree weather in a sweatshirt because they're so weak. [00:23:00]
Ethan Rosuck: Yeah. I can never be a meteorologist in Vegas.
I can never be a meteorologist in Southern California after doing meteorology here in the Midwest. This is too much fun. I love being able to talk about how we could get to the upper 80s somehow in the month of March breaking records- Yeah. ... and all we've been doing this spring season has been breaking records, and I love being able to do that.
Um, Indiana has a very niche weather pattern, and I say that coming from a guy who grew up in the Chicago area.
Michael Zarick: Mm-hmm.
Ethan Rosuck: Chicago area, you have Lake Michigan, which plays an effect on nine times out of 10 weather things that go on. Um, lake affects winds, lake winds, lake breezes, lake affects snow. Um, it's very different there, but then here it's more active.
The jet stream always seems to be, which is just the path where weather systems kind of go seems to be right in [00:24:00] line with, like, Central Illinois and, and Indiana for some reason. Yeah, it's like a
Michael Zarick: waveform, right? So it just kind of like-
Ethan Rosuck: Pretty much. And it's volatile. It moves. Yeah. Um, but it's always here, and I've realized that that is a story.
Why on earth can we get to 88 degrees in the month of March and then within four days get back to freezing or talking about snow?
Michael Zarick: Mm-hmm.
Ethan Rosuck: We had our biggest snow in several years this past January. Indianapolis had a two day snow total of 11.1, 11.2 inches, something like that at the end of January before it got cold.
Michael Zarick: Mm-hmm.
Ethan Rosuck: That was our biggest snow, I believe, since 2013, 14 winter season, so 11, 12 years. And even last year, we had more snow than Chicago. That baffles me because Chicago should get a lot more snow- Yeah. ... because the lake and everything.
Michael Zarick: You ever get [00:25:00] existential? You're just, like, freaking out or-
Ethan Rosuck: Sometimes.
Michael Zarick: Okay.
Ethan Rosuck: Like that day, March 22nd, when we got to 88 degrees, I'm at New Fields for the Spring and Bloom thingy with Sarah- Yeah. ... and, um, Chelsea Helms- Art and Bloom. Art and Bloom. Thank you. Where the, the flowers, they were making their flower bouquets and I sat there and I'm watching them do it. I had a beverage and I look at the climate thing.
I'm like, "Oh my God, we're about to get to 88 degrees in the month of March." I'm sitting there, like, low key freaking out because that's never happened before, ever. And our weather records go back 153 years to 1870 or 155 years, 1871.
Michael Zarick: Mm-hmm. Yeah.
Ethan Rosuck: And I think Indiana and Ed, like, Ed helps bring that together.
Brian, too, because I could say a specific date, and either him or Brian, and then together could be like, "Oh, you d-did, oh, [00:26:00] da-da-da-da. Oh, did you know what happened here on Kessler Boulevard? Did you know what the river used to do? " Just randomly off the cusp. That's how historians, and we, meteorologists, we call ourselves Weather Wienies.
Our brains work in w- wack ways. It's our, it's fun. And Indiana is a, it's a place where people want to know something different. I think every day Hoosiers are hardworking people. Hoosiers are people with, that are driven and want to get from to the next stage, like, not only just every day, but in their life.
Michael Zarick: Yeah.
Ethan Rosuck: Um, um-
Michael Zarick: It's a politician answer.
Ethan Rosuck: That is. But
Michael Zarick: I agree with you.
Ethan Rosuck: But it's, it's kind of true. Um, I like being, I like thinking I could be a part of it and us too. And I know Ed, even though he's, you know, attorney by day, historian by side gig, he does-
Michael Zarick: Side gig that he makes, it, it feels like it's more than what he does.
Ethan Rosuck: Correct.
Michael Zarick: Over the day.
Ethan Rosuck: Correct. [00:27:00] Nobody asks him for attorney advice ever,
Michael Zarick: lawyer advice. We
Ethan Rosuck: all go for him for
Michael Zarick: history less. That's funny. Um, great answer. Thank you. Uh- I wanna talk about being Jewish.
Ethan Rosuck: What makes you think I could, what makes you think I could know that? You can do it. No worries. I mean- Sure. I am Jewish.
I look Jewish. I act Jewish. It's there. I-
Michael Zarick: But I don't like- Every, every Jewish person I know, and actually this is really funny. So when I went, so I went to IU Bloomington-
Ethan Rosuck: So did my parents.
Michael Zarick: Oh, that's right. I knew that.
Ethan Rosuck: Yep. That's how they met.
Michael Zarick: Uh, which actually has, like, it's like 14% Jewish at IU Bloomington.
Ethan Rosuck: It's, you know, and you know where they all come from?
Chicagoland.
Michael Zarick: Yeah, literally.
Ethan Rosuck: And, and guess what? Guess where parents both came from, from Chicagoland. Just so you know, my, what you're seeing here, my dad's side of the family originates from New York, my grandparents are from Brook- Brooklyn. He, my dad was born in New Jersey, moved to the Chicago area [00:28:00] in the '70s.
My mom's side of the family, Chicago for generations, north side, Rogers Park, um, my great-grandparents I think had like one of those really old condos on Lake Shore Drive way back when, um, grew up in Buffalo Grove, Illinois.
Michael Zarick: Uh-huh.
Ethan Rosuck: And so you get me an appreciation for all things, carbs, bagels, and pizza.
Michael Zarick: But not Lox.
Ethan Rosuck: But not locks.
Michael Zarick: Uh, I, I do wanna make a comment about IU Bloomington, which is that- Please do. ... that for as large as the Jewish population is at IU Bloomington, and it hurts me to say this because I love Bloomington Bagel Company. It is crazy that Bloomington does not have a better bagel shop than Bloomington Bagels.
Have
Ethan Rosuck: you ever tried Gables Bagels?
Michael Zarick: No.
Ethan Rosuck: Okay.
Michael Zarick: Are they newer?
Ethan Rosuck: They are newer.
Michael Zarick: Okay.
Ethan Rosuck: That's why, but I've had them in Bloomington. Now they're up here, um, in Zionsville, check it out, reach out to my guy, Ed Schwartzman.
Michael Zarick: Okay. You know it's legit then?
Ethan Rosuck: He, I, I went because I knew they opened and I, I'm just [00:29:00] like, all right, I had some time, I'm gonna go check it out.
So I walk in and I don't even look at the menu because here's how I judge a good place for bagels. I get a bacon, egg and cheese, and then a bagel and schmear and a coffee. I didn't look at the- Oh, you
Michael Zarick: hit the three.
Ethan Rosuck: The three.
Michael Zarick: Okay.
Ethan Rosuck: And he, he was behind the scenes. He saw me. And I also, and, and he just came up to me as I'm ordering, he's like, "Why didn't you look at the menu?
Why'd you know what you wanted?" And I said, and I said, "What do you think? " And he, he's like, "You're a member of the tribe." I said, "Yeah." Let's wait. So what is the output of that? The output of that is he had respected that I knew what I wanted.
Michael Zarick: Uh-huh.
Ethan Rosuck: And he's, and he actually changed my order. He's like, "You're not getting plain cream cheese on this bacon, egg and cheese."
You are changing some ... No? Okay. He had some spicy maple bacon, he's like, "Trust me, get something else. You're getting this, and I'm joining you for coffee. I And I said, okay. And then we start exchanging stories. Jewish geography. [00:30:00] It exists.
Michael Zarick: Can you explain that definition? Can you define that?
Ethan Rosuck: He said to me, Ed Schwartzman, when does an old guy from Brooklyn ever let you down?
And I said, never because that's my grandfather, my dad's dad, old guy from Brooklyn. Partially responsible for my existence in life. Um, no, Jewish geography is basically, it's like, you know somebody who I know through multiple people and you somehow get there. Like for example, you were talking about you, I knew you knew people who like did like overnight camps and stuff.
Mm-hmm.. I never did that. Yeah. But that's a big connection. Like let's say I knew overnight, I did overnight camp and you had mentioned a name, I would be like, oh yeah, I know shut and such because I went to camp with his brother and his, and his nephew and- Yeah. Then we discover how we're all connected.
Michael Zarick: Mm-hmm..
Ethan Rosuck: Jewish geography is a thing and it happens in the bigger cities. I mean, even here in Indianapolis.
Michael Zarick: I mean, we did it today.
Ethan Rosuck: We did it literally today with Dave. His last time I found- He didn't
Michael Zarick: even know.
Ethan Rosuck: His last name, I did not [00:31:00] know he was Jewish. He's a member of the tribe.
Michael Zarick: I think that's why we got free tuned, to be honest.
Ethan Rosuck: Yeah. Yes. Does that answer Jewish geography? It's true. Just where you figure out what ways you're connected somehow.
Michael Zarick: Yeah. I'm gonna ask you a harder question, which is, um, while you are Jewish and you have experienced Jewish geography, at least by my perception, you are not, um, like you, you're not, um like hanging out with Jewish people regularly.
Ethan Rosuck: I'm culturally Jewish. Culturally Jewish. I'm culturally aware of- Yeah. ... the religion, what, you know, the important holidays that I do and celebrate the traditions that I have. Mm-hmm. And I, I probably should go back. It's been way too long. I have not been to temple in years. Um, I didn't grow up going to temple or a Hebrew school.
We had a, a private Hebrew tutoring that I was able to get bar mitzvah for, for half the price. Let's go. And, um, because I didn't meet ... The area in [00:32:00] Chicago where I'm from, there aren't a lot of Jewish people. You gotta go eight to 10 miles east, and that all changes. Um, closer to like Michigan.
Michael Zarick: Is there like an upper east side of Chicago type thing?
Ethan Rosuck: It's a North Shore.
Michael Zarick: Okay, that's what Ne York has, right? It's upper East?
Ethan Rosuck: Upper East side. Okay. Yep. And Long Island.
Michael Zarick: Yeah.
Ethan Rosuck: Pretty much. Um, yeah, the Chicago, it's like all the, all the towns that are close to like, close to Lake Michigan, that's just ... But I was a little further west from there. And so I didn't meet a lot more Jewish people in school until high school.
'Cause I knew people, for example, that went to ... They had a barabat mitzvah or sometimes two or three every weekend.
Michael Zarick: Mm-hmm.
Ethan Rosuck: Every weekend. I could count on one hand how many I went to when I turned 13.
Michael Zarick: Mm-hmm.
Ethan Rosuck: So it, it wasn't as many. And I, I like that way I grew up. I think there are things I should have probably done more like going to temple.
That's just not how we were and that's okay, but I'm never gonna ... It's a part of [00:33:00] me. Mm-hmm. It's an identity of mine and I, I try to make sure everyone, you know, just bring that out everywhere, but not like over that, if that makes sense. Yeah. I call myself Jewish. I
feel
Michael Zarick: like there's a TV show named that or something.
Ethan Rosuck: Probably. Uh, no, there's, there's, um, it's, it's Blackish.
Michael Zarick: Oh, that's
Ethan Rosuck: what it is. Blackish, which is, which with Anthony Anderson, which is a great show. Um, no, because I, I'm practicing, I do the holidays, but I do not like, I don't keep kosher, I don't do Shabbat. Yeah. I don't do a lot of the things
Michael Zarick: that- I used to go to Shabbat dinner.
So this was another thing about IU.
Ethan Rosuck: Well, yeah, you could probably do it very easily.
Michael Zarick: I didn't have, like, I didn't have any friends for like the first month except for Jewish friends. So I would go to
Ethan Rosuck: Shabbat. We're a, we're, we're a friendship every day.
Michael Zarick: I would go to Shabbat every Friday
Ethan Rosuck: because they
Michael Zarick: get the free food.
Ethan Rosuck: The planning people, the yes people, nine times out of 10, they're probably [00:34:00] Jewish, you know? It's, it's just how we are. And- Um,
Michael Zarick: all right. So you're also-
Ethan Rosuck: Yes. ...
Michael Zarick: big food boy.
Ethan Rosuck: Big food boy.
Michael Zarick: We're at a food place right now.
Ethan Rosuck: We are.
Michael Zarick: This one's core to you because it's Chicago food and it's you, as you say, the most authentic Chicago food.
Ethan Rosuck: It was good. It's the only place I can find in Central Indiana where I can get a char dog, grilled up Chicago, uh, hot dog.
Michael Zarick: Yep.
Ethan Rosuck: Um, and Italian beef the correct way on the Turano bread either dipped without, it's, it's good. And- So good. I mean, we both had it. Um, Dave hooked us up, but, um, that is a reason why I like going out.
It's a, it's a cur- it's a blessing and a curse, I say because everything costs money. Everything costs money. And the news does not pay.
Michael Zarick: I'll say it for
Ethan Rosuck: you. No, it's, you know it because your spouse is in it. Um, I [00:35:00] work with Anna, so that's how we all came connected. Ah. And then, um, yeah, it is not, it's not ideal.
Michael Zarick: But I wanna talk about a couple places that I know you love.
Ethan Rosuck: Sure.
Michael Zarick: One. Uh, sorry. One side door bagel. You go there probably twice a week.
Ethan Rosuck: I've gotten better. When it, when I first moved here, hell yeah. 'Cause I could walk there. And it was so good. That was just when they ... And I moved here in 2023. That was when that article came out and they just went viral.
Michael Zarick: Mm-hmm.
Ethan Rosuck: And I had to see what it was about.
Michael Zarick: Mm-hmm.
Ethan Rosuck: There and, um, um, Bagel Fare-
Michael Zarick: mm-hmm. ...
Ethan Rosuck: up in Nora.
Michael Zarick: That's 86th Street.That's far from you.
Ethan Rosuck: Those ...
Michael Zarick: Yes. Or 82nd? I don't know the-
Ethan Rosuck: Nora. Yeah. 82nd Street. Those are my two shops and I need to go back to Gables.
Michael Zarick: Those are, those are the two
Ethan Rosuck: shops-Correct. And then Gables Bagels too, but I've only been there the one time.
[00:36:00] Mm-hmm. Um, Side-Door Bagels is so good.
Michael Zarick: It's so good.
Ethan Rosuck: It is so good. They make- And I'm
Michael Zarick: not downtown very often, but when I am and it's in the morning, I'm like, I gotta get in there.
Ethan Rosuck: There's just something about going, getting a bagel with schmear and sitting outside with a coffee. It's great.
Michael Zarick: I, I think
Actually, I wanna run with this point a little bit. Do it. I think, like, in the world that I wanna live in, and, andna's in Paris right now. Shout out to Anna. I was not invited. No, you were
Ethan Rosuck: not.
Michael Zarick: Side door bagel hits that, like, al- pseudo Parisian or I guess European, like, neighborhood bodega-y spot that you can just, like, go and, uh, as you said, get a, get a sandwich and get a coffee and just, like, chill and probably see someone you know more, more like- Every
Ethan Rosuck: time.
Michael Zarick: Actually, when we ... Oh my God, I forgot. When we first went to Side Door Bagels with you, and we, we saw, like, we met, like, three random people [00:37:00] who ... I know one's Michelle. I think Michelle listens to this podcast.
Ethan Rosuck: Michelle, uh, Kaufman?
Michael Zarick: Mm-hmm.
Ethan Rosuck: Yep.That doesn't surprise me because she knows everybody and their mother.
And- With love, I say that, by the way.
Michael Zarick: And two other, uh, women who just, like, are in the industry and just, like, randomly, it seemed like that cool neighborhood spot.
Ethan Rosuck: It's easy to get to. The food is good, and more importantly, from my standpoint, they make the bagels right.
Michael Zarick: Mm-hmm.
Ethan Rosuck: You cannot steam bagels.
Michael Zarick: This is a, this is a no problemt bagel guy over here.
Ethan Rosuck: Boil them. They gotta be boiled. That way you have the soft inside and the hard outside and Side Door and, um, Bagel Fair. Do that. Gables, bagels as well. But I wanna try some other things because I said I've only been there the one time. Um, I do, like I said, I'm a snob about two things. Bagels and pizza.
Michael Zarick: All right.
Pizza ... Well, you have a pizza passport.
Ethan Rosuck: You have a pizza passport.
Michael Zarick: How far in are you?
Ethan Rosuck: [00:38:00] Uh, out of all the places in there, I think I've done, like, 10 of them, probably.
Michael Zarick: 10 of, like,
Ethan Rosuck: 30? There's a lot in there. There's a lot in there. Indiana has a lot of pizza. And it's great. But I don't do ranch with pizza.
Michael Zarick: Hmm.
Ethan Rosuck: I get ridiculed for that all the time.
I
don't
Michael Zarick: think you should.
Ethan Rosuck: No. You ... Oh, you agree with my sentiment?
Michael Zarick: I will eat ranch with pizza, but it's not like- It's
Ethan Rosuck: not like the end of the world.
Michael Zarick: I'm not seeking it out.
Ethan Rosuck: Okay. Oh, you know, I know people that seek it out. And that, and, and that's okay. I think that's an Indiana thing. For sure. I, I think so. Um, I, I, I got nothing against it.
I just, I don't like it. Um-
Michael Zarick: Is it the ranch or is it the combo?
Ethan Rosuck: Combo. Ranch I, I've, I've even gotten better at over the recent years where I can eat a good ranch. I think I just had a bad ranch way back when and kind of stayed away.
Michael Zarick: Yeah.
Ethan Rosuck: But, um, I [00:39:00] do love ... It, it's ... I love comfort food. If you haven't gotten that yet for me, I just love a good comfort food.
Something easy to eat.
Michael Zarick: One, one, one last restaurant. Comfort food. Bohdi. Your pride and joy.
Ethan Rosuck: It is my pride and joy.
Michael Zarick: Your North Star.
Ethan Rosuck: It's, that is my ... I want a special occasion and I don't care if I can't pay, if I shouldn't do it, I'm gonna go. I- if I have the craving, I'm gonna go to Bohdi. Um-
Michael Zarick: What is it about Bohdi that you find so compelling?
Ethan Rosuck: I don't know. Well, the food. Well, actually, no, the food is superb.
Michael Zarick: But, like, get emotional with. Like, what is it about the food or the experience of eating at Bohdi that you, that really touches something within you? In whatever way that means. It might be the morning after too.
Ethan Rosuck: That is a, that is a great question.
Um, no, I got a good stomach. I can handle things. Um, unlike a lot of Jewish people who have very bad [00:40:00] stomachs. Uh, no. Mi, I, I can handle Spice for the most part. Um, so Bohdi's actually ... It was one of the first places I went in Indianapolis. I didn't know what ... I kinda just found it. Oh, for anyone listening who doesn't know what Bohdi is, it is a- Thai restaurant.
Thai restaurant. ... on the edge of Mass Ave by the bottle works. They now take reservations. It's a new thing and, um, they have a beautiful patio.
Michael Zarick: Mm.
Ethan Rosuck: 21 and over, by the way. Um- Cardi at the door. Yes. They will card you with the door. I found it ... I didn't know what it was. It just looked fun. There was a line outside and I did not know.
Michael Zarick: Uh-huh.
Ethan Rosuck: So then maybe this was a month after I moved here. I went, I sat at the bar and the lady who was working was like, "You're the new guy from Fox." Oh, really? Literally brand, brand new. I'm like, "Yeah." I'm like, I wasn't expecting that. Like I said, I'd been here a month. And I said, "Yeah." And she said, "Have you ever had Thai food [00:41:00] before?"
I said, "Yes, but not in a long time."
Michael Zarick: Mm-hmm.
Ethan Rosuck: Um-
Michael Zarick: Time.
Ethan Rosuck: So she said, "Okay, here's what you're getting."
Michael Zarick: You just got told?
Ethan Rosuck: It's like at Gables Bagels. Yeah. You are getting told about what it is.
Michael Zarick: What was it?
Ethan Rosuck: It was, uh, the ... Oh, what was it? It was the, uh, cow so ... Nope, it was the cow soy. Oh, I know. They, it was their special.
Michael Zarick: Yeah. I had that.
Ethan Rosuck: Um, which I, and I ask every time, it's a special. It's like their ramen plus noodles together.
Michael Zarick: Uh-huh.
Ethan Rosuck: Um, it was so- It's,
Michael Zarick: it's
Ethan Rosuck: really good. And I'm just sitting there by myself. I don't have anybody to show this to. I'm like, what, I don't think people know.
Michael Zarick: You're like, I want to tell
Ethan Rosuck: someone about it.
I'm like, I need to tell the world about it. And that was the first place that did it for me. Um, so now anytime, like I've introduced a lot of people who have ... If someone new starts at the station, for example, and like the schedule works out, I always want to be like, "All right, I'm [00:42:00] taking you out. We're going to do this.
I want to introduce you to a place in the city or something." Nine times out of 10, it has been Bohdi.
Michael Zarick: You're like, "We're going to Bohdi and then we're going to Goodfellas after
Ethan Rosuck: to get a drink." That was me and Sarah's first day.
Michael Zarick: I know.
Ethan Rosuck: It was, it was both you and then wise guys. Or,
Michael Zarick: yeah, wise guys.
Ethan Rosuck: Um, and it, and they treat you well.
It's not outrageously expensive.
Michael Zarick: Especially for the, the service and the quality.
Ethan Rosuck: And the food is, it is so good. Um, and like-
Michael Zarick: Um, so the owner's mother, I'm sure you know this because you go there enough, but the owner's mother is often in the back cooking.
Ethan Rosuck: Yeah. I met her, I forget her name to, right now, but man, so nice.
Michael Zarick: Yeah.
Ethan Rosuck: And can cook anything you want.
Michael Zarick: Mm-hmm.
Ethan Rosuck: Um, and I, and they do that in that small kitchen, I give them credit. Um-
Michael Zarick: They had to close for like two weeks last year. I'm sure that was devastating because like-
Ethan Rosuck: I remember that. I was, I was nervous. I'm like, "Oh no." But, um, and I always, I grew up, [00:43:00] my family, so my mom's side of the family has a local business, a T-shirt, custom sportswear shop.
Michael Zarick: Yeah.
Ethan Rosuck: In Highland Park, Illinois. It's been there. My grandfather opened it in 1977. Um, now it's my two uncles, my mom's brothers that run it, and that is a staple in Highland Park. Um, so supporting local has always been something in my family, restaurants, shops-
Michael Zarick: mm-hmm. ...
Ethan Rosuck: and I'm gonna do that the rest of my life.
And when I found out that a lot of, where I live now has all, lot of local places, especially in downtown India and the surrounding neighborhoods, I will preach that for the rest of my life. Mm-hmm. And Bohdi just kind of made me realize that, that maybe I'll pay a couple of extra dollars more for something that I won't shut up about in the nicest way because it's true.
Michael Zarick: And I'm, I'm looking at Dave right now, like, you say paid extra, a couple extra dollars more, you can come in here. I'm, I'm gonna
Ethan Rosuck: drop another- I'm dropping another ad. No. There's a
Michael Zarick: couple dollars less.
Ethan Rosuck: No, there's no extra [00:44:00] anything. But the names here, oh my God, if you're a Chicagoan and you have not been to Chicago Dog Beef and Dog Company, you gotta come here.
Michael Zarick: Hashtag free ad.
Ethan Rosuck: Literally- Well, it helps. You gotta check out some of the ... I mean, like, like you got the, you got the Belushi dog, the Daily Dog, the egg- Don't
Michael Zarick: have to read
Ethan Rosuck: it all. No. The Abe Froman Combo.
Michael Zarick: Sure. Who's Abe Froman.
Ethan Rosuck: The Sausage King of Chicago.
Michael Zarick: Okay. I knew you would know.. Oh, okay. Sorry. Watch that. Yes.
Ethan Rosuck: So that's why I like that.
That was just the first spot that kind of made me realize like, wow, Indy has a good local food scene and I'm gonna tell everybody about it.
Michael Zarick: Yeah.
Ethan Rosuck: And-
Michael Zarick: Cool.
Ethan Rosuck: It's fun.
Michael Zarick: Amazing. We're gonna move on.
Ethan Rosuck: Okay.
Michael Zarick: To what I call the canned questions.
Ethan Rosuck: All right. I'm here for it.
Michael Zarick: I do have a, a sponsor to read.
Ethan Rosuck: Okay, go ahead.
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Ethan Rosuck: Okay.
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Michael Zarick: City Rising and sponsored a question, which is what is a third space to you?
Ethan Rosuck: Just like in general or a specific spot?
Michael Zarick: Answer it how you like. I like to get like- Existential or,
Ethan Rosuck: or- I'm gonna give you my philosophy.
Philosophical answer. That comes with a little bit of therapy there, the fact that I've been doing, seeing a psychologist since I was seven years old, and I'm very proud of that fact. No, it's true. Um, Third Space is somewhere where you may not go every day, either mentally or physically, but it's somewhere where you know you're comfortable, somewhere where you're not afraid [00:46:00] to, somewhere where you're not afraid to just be yourself or maybe try something new, either thinking, reading something new about the day or learning a new fact or going to a spot and getting something that is different for you.
It's, it's ... But it's something that gives you that, that nudge that's comfortable to try something new that you're comfortable in. And third space in, it could, you, there's no right answer in my mind. I feel, I ... Is that a good ...
Michael Zarick: It's your answer.
Ethan Rosuck: Well, I don't like that. There is no
Michael Zarick: wrong
Ethan Rosuck: answer. Exactly.That's what I said.
Yeah. There's no wrong answer. I just, I, uh ... In Indy, what I like about you is you also, you have said to me, all of your episodes, you have not been to the, a single place twice. Mm-hmm. At least not. Uh- Right? Yeah, not really. It just makes me think that everybody's mind obviously works in different ways because you had asked her, [00:47:00] right, you pick a place, I picked a
Found a couple and we ended up here and this is like a third space.
Michael Zarick: Mm-hmm.
Ethan Rosuck: We're here in Indy, a city that I've grown to love-
Michael Zarick: mm-hmm. ...
Ethan Rosuck: for its people, for the, for the scene, the food scene and the culture. But damn, if I want an Italian beef or a hotdog and feel like home, all you gotta do is go to Irvington.
And it's great. And without having me drive up 200 miles cheese.
Michael Zarick: I just really wanna drive home that I was not paid to be here, but we are driving home the ads.
Ethan Rosuck: No. Well, hey, I told you- But
Michael Zarick: I also think there's something to be said about, like, feeling like something about, like, a place like this, which can remind you of, like, your comfort space of, like, being in your hometown, um, where you grew up and you have a lot of life experience with, I think, says a lot.
And I think it, it strikes that well.
Ethan Rosuck: And I think that's ... One thing I love about Indianapolis and the [00:48:00] people, there are a lot of Chicago transplants here, and I've realized that really over the last couple of years, I work with several of them, I work with the biggest known one of all, Brian Wilkes, who's been here 31 years.
I mean, it's so nice to have that. We talk ... We've discovered that his, his grandmother and my great-grandfather worked at the same corrugated box company- ... On the south side of Chicago one random day, and I ... It's just those things. You, you can't explain it. And I think when you're in a place where people are good and genuine and down to earth that make you just be you without having to try any
I try to be someone else, that's when you know you're in a good spot. Mm-hmm. And Indy has a lot of those third spaces and, yes, [00:49:00] try something new, but also be you.
Michael Zarick: Hmm. Great answer.
Ethan Rosuck: Thank you.
Michael Zarick: Followup question. Actually asked originally by Ed Fujawa, which I stole forever, which is, uh, which is what is a third space that has ex- third space or place that has existed for you previously that no longer does.
Ethan Rosuck: That is a real good question.
Michael Zarick: Which is why I have- That is- ... Have said every episode since he was on.
Ethan Rosuck: A third space that has existed for me previously, but doesn't exist for me now.
Michael Zarick: Yeah, whether that's emotionally or, like, literally, you know.
Ethan Rosuck: Thank God you edit. Um- No, because I'm, I'm thinking about this. Yeah, you're
Michael Zarick: allowed to think.
Ethan Rosuck: Um,
what have other people said? Give, give me, give me a ball-
Michael Zarick: I can't answer for-
Ethan Rosuck: No, just, just humor me here. Just [00:50:00] give me some examples.
Michael Zarick: I mean, if I were to answer this question right now-
Ethan Rosuck: mm-hmm. ...
Michael Zarick: it would be summer camp, like where I went.
Ethan Rosuck: Okay, then that's-
Michael Zarick: I was a camp counselor for five years. I attended that summer camp for, like, seven before that.
That is a place that I went every summer and is a massive part of me.
Ethan Rosuck: Then, okay, then I was pretty ... I just wasn't sure. So okay. You're gonna cut all of that. Um- No, I'm not. No. Just ... So my ... I grew up ... This place called Twin Orchard. My dad plays golf, and my grandfather was a member at this club, my dad's dad, and then my, um, on my mom's side, my great-grandfather, Leo, who I'm named after was a longtime member too.
We ... I grew up just going ... It was down the street from my parents' house, purely to just go swimming. And we would do events. We would do, like, um, they had Twino, which was like bingo, their dinner in bingo. Where we would stand up, like, and we'd win big prizes. We would ... There was one called, like, power round or whatever.
You'd hold up the [00:51:00] napkins and until your, your name got, or your number got called and you sat down, you, your thing on your card didn't get called down, you won, like, pure cold, hard cash. And I could have been, like, five years old. Um, and I'd bring my friends there every summer. We had just to hang out and go swimming or relax.
I would play golf, bad golf, um-
Michael Zarick: Yeah. ...
Ethan Rosuck: emphasis on bad golf. Or sometimes I would just ... Even though my parents, like, it was, you know, if I was home alone, it was quiet. I just wanted to go five minutes down the street and go sit. They have a, they have a, a bunch of, like, benches overlooking one of the golf holes.
I would just sit and read and, or sit and just sit. Um, that's my third space and I don't have ... Uh, we are not ... My family does not belong there anymore. Um, it's just we don't use it anymore. It's just how it goes. And, you know, it, it is a country club and the name country club does often come with [00:52:00] a stipulation.
Michael Zarick: Yeah.
Ethan Rosuck: It does.
Michael Zarick: Yeah.
Ethan Rosuck: But I like to think that we were a little different with how we used it. We cared about the place. We used it as a second home for us, not just to, my dad to bring work people to or to go play golf. We used it as a, as a ... My sister and I specifically used it as a comfort space, and I was very, very grateful for that, to have that growing up.
A lot of my friends worked there as lifeguards, some, a couple of servers, and on sometimes ... We'd all hang out, you know, I would hang out with them after work, at the club. It was, it was different. And-
Michael Zarick: Yeah. ...
Ethan Rosuck: that was my third space, I guess, that I don't have anymore, but it's, and it's okay. It's like I have plenty of other ones.
Yeah. And-
Michael Zarick: I think, um, some people get [00:53:00] hyper fixated on this idea of third place or space is like a place that is free, but actually, like, within the original definition of a country club or a membership organization that you have to pay, be a part of is actually very, um, within the realm of correct.
Mm-hmm.
Um, because the idea is that you are, you're welcome there, as you said, and you're like, you, it's a place that you're there regularly. The main, the main activity is conversation and just, like, being present with other people. Um, so country clubs, even though they are exclusionary and that you must pay to be within them, uh, are still third spaces for someone.
Ethan Rosuck: And I'm very lucky that we were able to have that, um, even bigger bonus that all it took was five minutes for me to get there from the house I grew up in. And, lot of good, lot of good memories. My bar mitzvah was there, graduation parties were there, um, countless just days, [00:54:00] countless, countless, countless days swimming and playing golf and dabbled in tennis even for a minute.
Um, yeah. Cool.
Michael Zarick: Great answer.
Ethan Rosuck: Thank you.
Michael Zarick: And unique. No one has answered a country club yet.
Ethan Rosuck: Oh. I, I'm glad to be the first, I guess, question mark with
Michael Zarick: that. Uh, what time is it? Oh, we're right on time.
Ethan Rosuck: Perfect.
Michael Zarick: Every episode, I ask a question from the previous guest. The previous guest from you whose name is Jay Grillo, he's a local, uh, visual artist.
Ethan Rosuck: Mm-hmm.
Michael Zarick: I shouldn't say it was such flair. Jay Grillo. Um-
Ethan Rosuck: Why not? That's okay.
Michael Zarick: He asks, uh, and I did have to look this up because it was pretty unique. Uh, where were you the most annoying and why was it the best thing ever?
Ethan Rosuck: Where was I the most annoying and why was it the [00:55:00] best thing ever?
Michael Zarick: It's sort of this idea of like-
Ethan Rosuck: Every day at work? No.
Michael Zarick: Yeah, basically, like, where are you ... I, it's sort of like taking the idea of a third space, so you being, talking about being yourself. Like, where were you so comfortable being the loud and proud Ethan Rosuck and, like, why
And like, but maybe do a little self-reflections, like, maybe I was annoying other people, but it was great for me.
Ethan Rosuck: If I had to pin that somewhere made me ...
Michael Zarick: That was such an evil
Ethan Rosuck: laugh. No, just like, because I'm thinking about it, I'm like, man, just stories. Um, the chug up in Muncie. The chug specifically, up in Muncie, a lot of good times- I'm
Michael Zarick: assuming that's a bar.
Ethan Rosuck: It is a bar, in a basement, the best bar, any Ball State student or alum will know it.
We would go there all, all the [00:56:00] time, and I lived across the street- mm-hmm. ... so I was there way too much. Mm-hmm. And I, if anybody were probably annoyed with me on how often I would ask to go out, it was probably then-
Michael Zarick: Yeah. ...
Ethan Rosuck: because it was, it was bad. It was a lot.
Michael Zarick: They're like, "Ethan, you live across the street, this is unfair."
Ethan Rosuck: No, they, literally, no, it's like, like, this is a benefit to you. We have to drive or we have to Uber or, or ... But then, but that was when I was extra nice. They'd be like, "I'll pick you up and we'd go. " And all you gotta do is Uber one way. Um-
Michael Zarick: That's diabolical.
Ethan Rosuck: I, because either that or, um- Maybe during, like, a severe weather event,
Michael Zarick: like if-
Ethan Rosuck: No, I'm serious.
Like, if we're at work-
Michael Zarick: Uh-huh. ...
Ethan Rosuck: we're locked in.
Michael Zarick: Mm-hmm.
Ethan Rosuck: And even the other day, I wasn't even working. This was Monday.
Michael Zarick: Oh, we were talking about this.
Ethan Rosuck: Yes. And I was s- still involved, and it's a problem because I'm invested in work and I love my job, but then I k- I kept finding things that were wrong, [00:57:00] um, and I, I was emailing, I'm like, "Get this fixed."
And I, I- Did
Michael Zarick: your parents ever ask you for, like, tech help with your computer, their computer?
Ethan Rosuck: Yeah.
Michael Zarick: You're like that, but, like, you're like my, uh, IT guy, but if you're a meteorologist, I'm like, "Ethan, is it gonna rain later?"
Ethan Rosuck: Every time. I was getting-
Michael Zarick: What's the sky look like?
Ethan Rosuck: Every, every ... No, trust me, I got that a lot, I get that every severe weather event, and on the days where I'm not working, I can answer them a lot more.
But, you know, and I felt bad because I'm, I'm email ... I'm like, right, this isn't working, this isn't working, please look into this and-
Michael Zarick: You should be, you should always reply, you should have an auto apply. It just says, like, tune into the six o'clock news.
Ethan Rosuck: Yeah. To just, just be like, if someone emails me, just be like, tune in tomorrow at four every day, because that's usually when I'm on the air at least.
Um, but yeah, I, um, I'm very thankful for where I am now. I have a great support system.
Michael Zarick: Mm-hmm.
Ethan Rosuck: I'm very lucky that I've had the [00:58:00] parents that I do and a, and a, and a sister as well who's a couple years younger. Um, I didn't think I would be wanting to stay in Indianapolis as long as I, you know, I didn't think
Number one, I didn't think I was gonna be dating a girl long term from New Palestine, Indiana. That's one. I never thought that would ever happen, but, and never know what'll happen. Mm-hmm. That's, and, um, I also never thought that I would love my job as much as I do.
Michael Zarick: Hmm.
Ethan Rosuck: I sacrifice a lot of things.
Michael Zarick: I don't think anyone from Fox 59 other than my wife listens to this, so you're safe- Ah.
if you wanna tell the truth.
Ethan Rosuck: I'm kidding. Yeah. Well, anybody on TV know, I wish the pay was better. 100 million percent. Um, I'm looking forward to saving on rent when I move in with Sarah. That is gonna be great. But, um, I guess. Um, you have to, I think, have a certain brain or a certain passion to work in television, [00:59:00] like Anna's and me and especially when it comes to weather.
You have to take this complicated science and tell it in a way where that people can't just get on their apps. Apps are great. Some of them have gotten a lot better, even like the Apple map, the Apple weather app. I used to hate it. It's not as bad as it used to be.
Michael Zarick: Yeah. They absorbed another, uh, they absorbed another app I used to use actually.
Ethan Rosuck: What was that?
Michael Zarick: Uh-
Ethan Rosuck: Remember?
Michael Zarick: I think it was called Dark Sky.
Ethan Rosuck: That would be, that would make sense as to the ... Actually, that- Yeah. I understand. So I always try to be that guy who can give you something that your apps can't do, that AI can't do.
Michael Zarick: Yeah.
Ethan Rosuck: Um, and I like to have fun with my job while being informative about it.
Michael Zarick: Mm-hmm.
Ethan Rosuck: Like during my tornado coverage on Friday, it was me and Kendall, our newest meteorologist was assisting. And I, and during the active warnings, I literally said, "I was at Promise Rhode Elementary School in Noblesville on [01:00:00] Wednesday, talking to kindergartners about the weather and weather safety."
Michael Zarick: Uh-huh.
Ethan Rosuck: And I'm gonna tell all of you at home what I told them. Turn or out, uh, what did I say? When thunder roars, go indoors. And I said, "You could be in kindergarten? You could be in your 80s. Remember that. " And that's like our, like, to be, the best way to be prepared. It all comes down to that or don't be scared, be prepared.
Mm-hmm. I love being able to, to do that. And if I can have, bring my storytelling aspect into it every day, that's where I like to be.
Michael Zarick: Yeah. Banger. One last question.
Ethan Rosuck: Yeah.
Michael Zarick: What question would you like to ask the next Third Space Indy guest?
Ethan Rosuck: Hmm. Um,
has, where is somewhere in Indianapolis or Central Indiana [01:01:00] that you want to try to find potentially as a third Space but haven't and why?
Michael Zarick: Okay. They, they will like that question. I know who it is. Uh- Okay,
Ethan Rosuck: great. Did, how did I do?
Michael Zarick: We're not done.
Ethan Rosuck: Oh.
Michael Zarick: We gotta round it out.
Ethan Rosuck: Not done.
Michael Zarick: Sorry. Ethan. If you want to
Ethan Rosuck: be found.
Oh.
Michael Zarick: Where can the people find you?
Ethan Rosuck: You can find me on Fox 59. Uh, primarily. Sometimes on our sister station, CBS4. Uh, I am on Facebook. I am on, on X Twitter. I am on Instagram. I'm, uh- What's
Michael Zarick: the handle?
Ethan Rosuck: Uh, my full name, Ethan Rosuck. E-T-H-A-N-R-O-S-U-K.
Michael Zarick: UCK. CK. I knew that.
Ethan Rosuck: That's okay. Um, and on Facebook it has meteorologists on the front.
Um, and if I'm not doing the weather, I'm usually somewhere reading, relaxing, [01:02:00] nine times out of 10 at a restaurant. Or getting coffee, um, or golfing during the months of March to October poorly.
Michael Zarick: Hmm.
Ethan Rosuck: And I wanna get back into bowling. I used to do that competitively for, for, for years. I don't know if you knew that about me.
Michael Zarick: Well, it's less, I'm just like, where is a good bowling spot? Maybe Dave knows.
Ethan Rosuck: You
got,
there's a
bo- Indiana-
Michael Zarick: No.
Ethan Rosuck: Love, loves bowling. Love bowling. Indiana loves bowling. No, trust me. They love, they're, they ... We used to come down here for tournaments. Like travel tournaments.
Michael Zarick: That's interesting.
Ethan Rosuck: Woodland Bowl, Royal Pin.
Michael Zarick: Well, I felt like bowling was huge in Louisville, actually, where I'm from. Uh- That
Ethan Rosuck: could-
Michael Zarick: Anyways.
Ethan Rosuck: Yeah.
Michael Zarick: Let's wrap it up. Thanks for watching or listening to this episode of Third Space Indy. Uh, you can find me by going ... Wait. You're, you're right here.
Ethan Rosuck: You are right here.
Michael Zarick: You can find me by going, uh-
Ethan Rosuck: You got
Michael Zarick: this.
Sorry. You can find me at ThirdSpace Indy on Instagram or [01:03:00] by going to thirdspaceindy.com where I leave the show notes and a blog. Thank you to City Rising for sponsoring the podcast. And also, thank you to Proformus. Proformus is an urban planning and design firm that helps neighbors and communities shape the places they already love based in Indianapolis.
They're here- Yes. ... to help you make your place happen one block at a time.
Thank you, as always, to the local artist, Jennasen, for allowing me to use your song Scared Rabbit as the intro music, and thank you to Dave.
Ethan Rosuck: Yeah, Dave, thank you.
Michael Zarick: At Chicago Beef and Dog in Irvington for allowing us to record here, it was very kind of him, not only to allow us to, uh, allow us to record here, but also for the free food. Uh-
Ethan Rosuck: Can I plug one thing before we go?
Michael Zarick: You can plug whatever you
Ethan Rosuck: want. Okay. So I also do one day a week. We try to, it's called Weather Authority Now.
It is a podcast that we air on the Fox 59 streaming app. It's called Fox 59 Now. You can get it on your smart TVs, and that's [01:04:00] also where we have all of our lot newscast live. If you don't have cable, if you don't have, uh, antenna or anything like that, you can watch our newscast on there. Just gotta download it on your TV.
Soon it's gonna be coming out on your phones, and you can also find our episodes, Weather Authority Now, on the Fox 59, uh, YouTube channel as well. That's where we have Ed has been a guest on several of them. It's me and my colleague, meteorologist Kendall Wilson. We basically talk about things that we don't have time to talk about on television.
Michael Zarick: Yep. Like- I'll say it so Ethan doesn't have to. Your local Fox news station is nothing like the Fox News you're used to.
Ethan Rosuck: That is correct. Very, very different.
Michael Zarick: And they have a lot more fun on the off air shows than they do on TV, so- Yeah.
Ethan Rosuck: So download that, and if you have any ideas ever, we always love to hear it.
Reach out to me on social media. All right.
Michael Zarick: Thanks so much for listening or watching on YouTube. Uh, my name is Michael Zarick. Have a great rest of the day. Goodbye.
Ethan Rosuck: Thank you.
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