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Episode Summary

In this episode of Third Space Indy, host Michael Zarick interviews AJ Carr-Canary, owner of DID Fit Studio, an aerial arts studio in Indianapolis. AJ shares her path from mechanical engineer at Rolls-Royce to instructor, then studio owner. They discuss building a welcoming, judgment-free community, open houses, and collaborations with local groups. AJ emphasizes that pole fitness exists because of strippers, advocates sex positivity, and describes how the studio supports and discounts sex workers while educating newcomers without condescension. The conversation also touches on third spaces, personal hobbies, and public transit needs in Indy.

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00:00 Sex Work Origins
00:38 Third Place Intro
01:08 Meet DID Fit Studio
02:16 Spring Showcase Plans
04:25 What The Studio Is
07:22 From Engineer To Owner
12:12 Why Community Matters
13:31 Honoring Sex Workers
14:41 Sex Positive Education
16:55 Aerial Apparatuses Tour
18:33 Finding Adult Community
22:03 First Class Nerves
24:17 Defining Sexy Energy
26:33 Heels Show And Tell
28:27 Politics And Small Business
29:29 Canned Questions Bit
30:18 Sponsor Shoutout
30:43 Defining Third Space
32:21 Cats Gym And Reading
34:40 Fantasy Books Deep Dive
36:15 Being A Student Too
36:47 Heels Classes And Workshops
38:38 A Third Space Lost
42:44 What Indy Is Missing
49:22 Small Business Reality
52:17 Fugler Studio Mascots
53:37 Next Guest Question
55:44 Wrap Up And Where To Find
57:10 Final Thanks And Credits

Episode Transcript

AJ Carr-Canary

[00:00:00] AJ Carr-Canary: This studio would not exist without sex workers. Sex work is work. You see sometimes pole fitness, you know, and it's like this very gentrified. We aren't sexy, we're not strippers. And it's like, we wouldn't be here without strippers.

Strippers made pole what it is today. It made it popular, you know?

[00:00:34] AJ Carr-Canary: Third Space dun-nu-nu-nuh outro,

no, like, sound like a jingle.

[00:00:38] Michael Zarick: I'm keeping this. in Hello,

my name is Michael Zarick.

This is Third Space Indy In 1989, a man named Ray Oldenberg wrote a book called The Great Good Place. In this book, he coined the term, the Third Place.

[00:00:52] AJ Carr-Canary: Mm.

[00:00:52] Michael Zarick: This outlines a place outside of your work and outside of your home that you can go be with others, relax, make friends, and just be in community. So I made it my goal here in Indianapolis to find people all over the city who are doing their very best.

To make that type of space. So today I'm joined by AJ Carr-Canary Nailed it. At, DID Fit Studio. Uh, DID Fit Studio.

This is, I I'm gonna let you tell the people what it is, but it's effectively just, uh, uh, not just, but a pole dancing studio. Mm-hmm. Or

[00:01:22] AJ Carr-Canary: aerial. Aerial aerial arts. So,

[00:01:24] Michael Zarick: aerial arts is a great word.

Good

[00:01:25] AJ Carr-Canary: term. Yeah. It's fun to say aerial arts. You, we have a bunch of different apparatuses here, and we have over like 30 classes a week. So we are so 30 a week, much more. And we have 27 instructors. So we are so much more than pole. We got, we have pole, we have silks, we have lira, we have stretching.

[00:01:41] Michael Zarick: You said 27 instructors.

Is that across both of your locations?

[00:01:43] AJ Carr-Canary: That is across both locations.

[00:01:44] Michael Zarick: I was like, dang, that's a lot for this.

[00:01:46] AJ Carr-Canary: But we, my, our instructors work at both locations, so I can't say like some only work there. Okay. Yeah, they crossover.

[00:01:52] Michael Zarick: I traveled across the world, over near the airport to meet up,

[00:01:57] AJ Carr-Canary: so

[00:01:58] Michael Zarick: to pole the world

[00:01:58] AJ Carr-Canary: over here.

[00:01:58] Michael Zarick: But I'm so glad I did because I walked in and you were so kind immediately and you saved my life. Because I don't have my water bottle right now. So I was horribly dehydrated.

[00:02:07] AJ Carr-Canary: That was one of the first things I had to, when I took ownership, I was like, we need a water fountain. We have,

[00:02:11] Michael Zarick: and it's one of the nice water, the bougie water

[00:02:13] AJ Carr-Canary: fountains.

Oh yeah. But I got it off Amazon, so, you know.

[00:02:15] Michael Zarick: That's funny. Uh, so AJ, first of all, how are you doing?

[00:02:20] AJ Carr-Canary: I'm doing really well. Yeah. I am loving this weather. I was, I, you know, in that riding that seasonal depression for a hot minute and then I feel like we're coming out of it, you know what I mean? And I'm just, I'm really excited for the, we have a lot of also really exciting things happening at the studio in the next couple months.

Yeah. So spring and spring and summer are always really, really fun. We do, um, we have, our spring showcase is coming at the end of April, and the theme is Y2K So back to the dance floor. I'm a millennial, so I'm like super. I'm like, where can I find a juicy velour tracksuit to wear? And we had 21 students apply for showcase.

Mm-hmm. So it's gonna be about a two hour show. Um, so that's gonna be really, really fun. I'm super, April 25th is when that is, when that happened. So, and I always mc, I don't perform, but I always mc, which is a time.

[00:03:06] Michael Zarick: Amazing.

[00:03:07] AJ Carr-Canary: Yeah.

[00:03:08] Michael Zarick: Um, on the topic of seasonal depression, I was, it was like, yeah.

[00:03:12] AJ Carr-Canary: Being of,

[00:03:13] Michael Zarick: yeah.

Like two weeks ago, uh, it was like 80 degrees and I went on a bike ride and I was like, man, I'm not depressed.

[00:03:20] AJ Carr-Canary: Oh my God.

[00:03:21] Michael Zarick: I was like, I texted someone, they were like, yeah. They're like, I feel great today. I was like, I realized my, my life is like totally turned around. It's like there's, there's a lot of bullshit happening in the world right now.

Oh my

[00:03:30] AJ Carr-Canary: God. Everything's on fire

[00:03:31] Michael Zarick: and it's terrible. However, here personally, me alone, I feel all right.

[00:03:36] AJ Carr-Canary: Yes. Oh man. And when we, we have a big garage door in the back of our studio when we get to open that garage door and have like some sunshine in while we're dancing. It is funny sometimes when you get the other tenants like walking by and they're like, what?

What's happening here? Yeah.

[00:03:51] Michael Zarick: What does, what does the average, uh, neighbor look like?

[00:03:53] AJ Carr-Canary: Yeah. Well, we had, and you know, the funniest neighbor we ever had is we had a mattress company. Right next door to us. And so people would mistakenly come in here and be like, we're looking for a bed. We're like, they're like, is this where we buy mattresses?

I was like, you're getting the wrong idea. I was like, this is not that kind of establishment. You guys can go over there. No, it was an HVAC guy and now we have a pest control on the other side. So it's really random who we're in between

[00:04:21] Michael Zarick: and And they're always confused.

[00:04:23] AJ Carr-Canary: They're always confused.

[00:04:24] Michael Zarick: That's so funny.

Um, so in your own words,

[00:04:27] AJ Carr-Canary: yeah,

[00:04:27] Michael Zarick: you kind of already haven't done it, but in your own words, can you describe, DID Fit Studio?

[00:04:32] AJ Carr-Canary: Yeah. So we are a Ariel Arts studio that welcomes everybody, every type of person, um, to find joy in movement overall. We're not necessarily trying to train you for the Olympics, you know, we want you to have fun.

We want you to feel confident, feel sexy. I know that when I came here. Um, the first time, so I used to be a bodybuilder and I used to be in fitness specifically. Mm-hmm. So, which is a division where you do a three minute routine that demonstrates strength, stamina, and flexibility. Okay. Woo. Fancy. Um, and I, I won my show in 2020, and then they said to me, great, great job, but you're too sexy.

This is a family. I wish someone

[00:05:18] Michael Zarick: would tell me

[00:05:18] AJ Carr-Canary: that. I know. I was like, oh, period. Um, but no, they were, but I was like, they're like, this is a family establishment. Like, you, you, you, they had too many crotch shots. And I'm like, I was fully, I was fully clothed, but you know what I mean? They were like, you're too sexy.

Make it. And I was like, I never want someone to tell me I'm too sexy ever again. You know? And so I was like, I'm gonna try pole because I feel like that's all about being sexy. And so I came in here and I never look back. I, and I think a lot of people are like that. They come in here the first time and they're just.

Hooked. And I love that it's, it's so encouraging, so warm and welcoming. And I think we were talking a little bit about this earlier, but it's also everybody type. And I love being with someone who's in a class with someone who's really, really tall total. 'cause I'm 4 5 1, right? And I'll watch her do a move and I'm like, oh my gosh, she does that so differently.

And then I'm like, I can't do it the way she does it. And then I'll do a move and I'm like, oh, I can do this really, really easy. 'cause I'm only five one. And so, and sometimes it's like better to have thicker thighs 'cause you can really grip the pole So it's like, I just love that you always are learning from other people that are different from you.

It's great.

[00:06:22] Michael Zarick: It's so funny that you said that you like, um, people with different bodies. It made you think of bouldering Actually,

[00:06:27] AJ Carr-Canary: yes.

[00:06:28] Michael Zarick: You know, like when I go, I've gone a couple of times. I would like to do it more, but um, people who are short in bouldering, I feel like they're cheating. And then I'm like over here like.

But then there's like smaller climbs on the wall. Smaller problems, I think they're called.

[00:06:42] AJ Carr-Canary: Yeah.

[00:06:42] Michael Zarick: That's deep. It's like, I feel there's, that's deep. Those that I'm, it's like I'm cheating. 'cause like you can finish it in like three.

[00:06:48] AJ Carr-Canary: Yeah, yeah. Right.

[00:06:48] Michael Zarick: Three leaps. So it's like the different body types and the way you interact with whatever, uh, you're inter um, interfacing with in that moment is like really interesting.

[00:06:56] AJ Carr-Canary: Yeah. I would say too that the, there's definitely a Venn diagram of people who boulder and people who do aerial sports like they are. That makes sense. They, yes.

[00:07:05] Michael Zarick: Like kinesthetics.

[00:07:06] AJ Carr-Canary: Maybe it's a circle.

[00:07:07] Michael Zarick: It's kinesthetic a word like

[00:07:08] AJ Carr-Canary: a calisthenics cal. A body weight

[00:07:10] Michael Zarick: awareness of

[00:07:11] AJ Carr-Canary: like body. Oh no, no, you're space.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Kinesthetics. I was thinking calisthenics. Like the body weight stuff.

[00:07:16] Michael Zarick: Yeah. I think both apply.

[00:07:17] AJ Carr-Canary: Yeah. Yeah. We're both right.

[00:07:20] Michael Zarick: Uh oh. Amazing. So how did you get into like this? Well you said, well we talked, we were talking about uh, what did stand for. Yes. Which is drop, invert, and dazzle. And you said the reason you changed from what it was before, which is do it different mm-hmm.

Is because there was a change of ownership.

[00:07:39] AJ Carr-Canary: Yes.

[00:07:39] Michael Zarick: Can you tell me how you came into this space?

[00:07:43] AJ Carr-Canary: Oh my gosh. Yeah. So it's a story. Um, I, so again, I started as a student here in like 2019 2020

[00:07:51] Michael Zarick: Mm-hmm.

[00:07:52] AJ Carr-Canary: And then I became an instructor in 2021. And my full-time job, this, that whole time was, I was a mechanical engineer.

I worked for Rolls Royce. So I have, my undergraduate degree is in mechanical engineering.

[00:08:07] Michael Zarick: Talk about a multifaceted lady

[00:08:09] AJ Carr-Canary: skirt. Uh, and so I did that. Um, and then in the summer of 2023, I got a brain injury. Mm-hmm. And a kind of a, a traumatic situation. And after that happened, I felt like I, you know, this could be a whole separate podcast, but I felt like the corporate world wasn't very accommodating to injuries that you can't see.

[00:08:30] Michael Zarick: Can you repeat that into the camera?

[00:08:32] AJ Carr-Canary: I feel like the corporate world isn't very accommodating to injuries. You can't see

[00:08:36] Michael Zarick: dang.

[00:08:40] AJ Carr-Canary: Uh, yeah. So I was, you know, I was having, it was like my third, fourth concussion that I've had in my lifetime. So I was really struggling with, with science and I, I felt like I didn't have the space to rest or to really recover.

And so I said to my husband, I was like, I think what I need to do is I need to quit my job. There's a couple other things going on, but I was like, it felt right in that time to be like, I'm gonna quit my job and I'm gonna go back to school full time. I'm gonna be in person so I don't have to be like on computer screens all day, under fluorescent lights all day.

'cause those were the things that were like really triggering my headaches. And he said, okay, I support you. So I quit my job and I just went back to school. I'm getting my MBA actually graduate in May a couple months. So it's very exciting. Dope. Um, so, uh, getting my MBA and then I was like supplementing all like, I'm gonna get my personal training license.

I'm really into fitness and then I'm gonna continue to teach. So I did that teach pole So I did that for about a year and then I got, I was, the previous owner reached out to me and she goes, Hey, I don't wanna do this anymore. And I literally, I have like 30 days to find a new owner or else like, the doors are gonna close.

And I, I was like, oh, okay. I was like, should I do this? I mean, I'm getting my business degree. Mm-hmm. And I love pole. Mm-hmm. I love aerial sports and I don't wanna see this community that I'm like a huge part of and like, has impacted my life so positively, just like go away. So I took a huge leap of faith and with the help of my husband, 'cause he owns Herculean Prepared Meals.

Have you heard of that?

[00:10:09] Michael Zarick: Is that the place of, uh, the garage?

[00:10:10] AJ Carr-Canary: Yeah.

[00:10:11] Michael Zarick: I, I used to work so fun fact.

[00:10:13] AJ Carr-Canary: Yeah.

[00:10:14] Michael Zarick: My job that I was laid off from when I first moved here, which is the triggering event for why I started the podcast. Was working, uh, for a software company that sold the meal prep companies. Oh. And we really wanted to her Herculean Meals.

I think we reached out to a bunch of times Yeah. To try to sell, uh, sell to them. Uh, so I became aware of them. Oh. Because when I first moved here, I went to the garage and I was like, oh, there's a meal prep company.

[00:10:37] AJ Carr-Canary: Yeah. I like you were like, you stored the information still. Yeah. Yep. That's it. That's it.

He, that's so

[00:10:41] Michael Zarick: funny.

[00:10:41] AJ Carr-Canary: Yeah. What a small freaking world. So, um, but he, so he started his business. He's also a very interesting story. So he started his business with his brother in their kitchen in 2016, and then it's grown now. He's like, he just opened his sixth location.

[00:10:52] Michael Zarick: Yeah.

[00:10:53] AJ Carr-Canary: So, um, he knows business. And I was like, well, I know Paul.

I was like, so you can, we can make this work. We can try and make this work. And we, we've made it work. So that was in October of 2024. And then in, um, July of 2025, the owner of Nexus Movement, which was a pole studio in font square, said, I'm done with this. I don't wanna. Be a studio owner anymore, will you take this over?

Mm-hmm. And I said, what's one more

[00:11:23] Michael Zarick: just dies? There's a, the guy who, so I run my like, blog slash whatever through like an email software. And he was like, he's like, the best way to like have your business succeed is just to outlast all the other

[00:11:37] AJ Carr-Canary: ones I mean, at some point. And well, and I'm, you gotta, I'm like learning. 'cause I'm like, okay, so people are doing something that they hate it at the end that they want it.

It's like, I don't want that to be me. Mm-hmm. So what can I do differently? So I really did, you know, and the previous owner for this studio still works here. She's still amazing. Amazing instructor. Just didn't wanna own the studio anymore.

[00:11:56] Michael Zarick: Yeah.

[00:11:57] AJ Carr-Canary: So, um, I was like, I need to learn from them. How can I be, how can I be better?

How can I learn from their mistakes? So, so far it's been going pretty good. So now we have two locations, um, one that's in Fountain Square, and then this location right off of Sam Jones Expressway.

[00:12:12] Michael Zarick: well, you said like you don't wanna lose the love.

Yeah. What, what do you love about this?

[00:12:17] AJ Carr-Canary: The people are so, you're never gonna leave here feeling bad about your day. Like, it's such a place where you could come in, people know your name, they're, they wanna talk to you even if they don't know you. Mm-hmm. They're gonna cheer you on when you're in class. And it's a very judgment free zone.

It's also because you. Like you need to wear for pole specifically, you need to wear like shorts and a tank top to have like the skin. So it's also the safe space of like, okay, well maybe I don't think my body is perfect or swimsuit ready, but it doesn't matter when I'm in here because I'm here for functional.

Right. And people are still gonna cheer me on and like, I'm like, damn girl, you look hot. Like I love those little shorts on you. They look so good and like we mean it, you know what I mean? Yeah. We like, we, but it's like, I, I just love seeing people thrive and that's, and everybody wants you to succeed here.

It's such a great community. I, yeah, it's great.

[00:13:05] Michael Zarick: Do you do like open studio or anything like that?

[00:13:07] AJ Carr-Canary: Oh yeah, we do open pole and we do, I've been really trying to get out in the community more. So we've done events with, let's be friends, Indy and um, Indy Beauty Boost, which is again, kind of newer. Uh, and then we do an open house, um, twice a year that has, we have vendor local vendors come in and we have like free mini classes all day and raffles and we donate, um, a percentage of those raffles to a particular charity or charities.

Um, so I really do try to give back as well. 'cause this is very important to note. This studio would not exist without sex workers. Sex work is work. And it is unfair to build a studio or an organization off of an under

marginalized group of people and not acknowledge them and not support them. So I feel very passionately we give discounts to sex workers, to dancers.

we do try to be also like discreet about that as well. and we are, again, we try to donate when we have our events. So we're just, I think it's really, really important. you see sometimes pole fitness, you know, and it's like this very gentrified. We aren't sexy, we're not strippers. And it's like, we wouldn't be here without strippers.

Strippers made pole what it is today. It made it popular, you know?

[00:14:24] Michael Zarick: Would you like to know my intentional decision?

[00:14:26] AJ Carr-Canary: Yeah.

[00:14:26] Michael Zarick: Around reaching out to you. I was like, oh, it's Women's History month. What's the oldest?

[00:14:32] AJ Carr-Canary: Yeah.

[00:14:32] Michael Zarick: Job in the world.

[00:14:35] AJ Carr-Canary: Sex press, sex work for sure. Sex work.

[00:14:37] Michael Zarick: There was an intentional decision

[00:14:39] AJ Carr-Canary: to hear.

Yeah, I like that. Thank you.

[00:14:41] Michael Zarick: Um, well, you already answered, uh, a question. I was, well, actually, what would you say, uh, on that topic? Yeah. Since I was gonna kind of ask that question anyways. Yeah. About sex work is not work for someone like my mother.

[00:14:56] DidFit-1: Oh,

[00:14:56] AJ Carr-Canary: is work?

[00:14:57] Michael Zarick: Yeah.

[00:14:57] AJ Carr-Canary: Sex work, you said

[00:14:58] Michael Zarick: it does

[00:14:58] AJ Carr-Canary: not, you

[00:14:58] Michael Zarick: said it does

[00:14:58] AJ Carr-Canary: not

[00:14:59] Michael Zarick: work.

I apologize. Freudian slip,

For someone like my mother who like historically, you know, has a,

she's changed, I think more so now, but like, I think historically, like, uh, pole dancing and stuff has this sort of negative connotation associated with it. Yeah. Can you talk about like what it means to be sex positive and Yeah.

Sort of create space? Um. For people who either just wanna exercise or even just practice their craft and whatever that means.

[00:15:26] AJ Carr-Canary: Yeah, it, you know, I think that there's this line, right, of how can you, I really do want to include everyone, even the people who are the conservative moms who don't know anything about pole and sex work and think it's kind of this taboo thing.

I do think there has to be a space for being a little uncomfortable. And I mean, I, I have very conservative parents who I, they didn't even know I, they thought I did Zumba for five years and then I finally was like, Hey, uh, I'm gonna buy a pole studio. And my dad goes, hopefully you won't see this. But he goes, you mean stripper bootcamp?

Is that what you do? I was like, love that idea.

[00:16:02] Michael Zarick: That's what

[00:16:03] AJ Carr-Canary: I,

[00:16:03] Michael Zarick: that sounds kind of nice. I dunno.

[00:16:06] AJ Carr-Canary: And so obviously they didn't understand, you know, what, what that is. But I think there is always an opportunity for education without condensation con condensation, not condensation

[00:16:14] Michael Zarick: compensation.

[00:16:15] AJ Carr-Canary: No, I don't wanna be condescending.

Oh, con, yeah. Right. Yeah. We there. Condescend

[00:16:21] Michael Zarick: being, being condescending. How about

[00:16:23] AJ Carr-Canary: that? Being condescending

[00:16:24] Michael Zarick: We'll make it easy.

[00:16:24] AJ Carr-Canary: Yes. I think there's opportunity for education without being condescending or without making people feel like they've done something wrong. Mm-hmm. And, um, and just being, helping them be open to learning something new.

And maybe it makes them a little uncomfortable to say words like sex, ooh and stripper, but those are real words. This is really where it came from. You can't forget the origins. So I, I've definitely had that whole array of people in here, and I just think everybody deserves to be here.

[00:16:53] Michael Zarick: Mm-hmm.

[00:16:53] AJ Carr-Canary: You know?

[00:16:54] Michael Zarick: Yeah. What about the other, uh, stuff like the, not ribbons, what are they called?

[00:16:59] AJ Carr-Canary: Silks.

[00:17:00] Michael Zarick: Silks,

[00:17:00] AJ Carr-Canary: yeah.

[00:17:01] Michael Zarick: And, um, the rings.

[00:17:03] AJ Carr-Canary: Lira,

[00:17:04] Michael Zarick: lira,

[00:17:04] AJ Carr-Canary: Lira. And then we have spiral.

[00:17:06] Michael Zarick: And spiral.

[00:17:07] AJ Carr-Canary: Yeah. And then we also have an aerial pole, which is a pole that mounts to the ceiling, but not to the ground. So it kind of, it's like a, almost like a pendulum.

[00:17:13] Michael Zarick: That's horrifying. I had a friend who did, um, no, I did, uh, circus stuff.

[00:17:19] AJ Carr-Canary: Yes.

[00:17:19] Michael Zarick: And all of these things are like really related, obviously.

[00:17:21] AJ Carr-Canary: Yes.

[00:17:22] Michael Zarick: They are obviously ler at the circus,

Like, can you tell me about how you sort of got into that too? Or is it just like expanding your offerings or?

[00:17:29] AJ Carr-Canary: It was, it was here when I was here. When I came in before. Okay. So yeah. Yeah. You'd have to ask the previous owner, but I think they are all related. Um, once you start one, you wanna try them all. They're great cross training. Mm-hmm. Too. So there are similarities between them and differences. Um, I am a pole girl myself.

Mm-hmm. I've been on the silks a little bit. I've been all lira a little bit. I've been on the spiral a little bit and I've been on all of them a little bit. I don't know what I'm saying. I don't know why I went through. Obviously you try 'em all. What is cool about our studio though, is that, like with our memberships, you don't have to buy separate memberships.

Like you can come, you get your, your bronze membership four classes a week, and you can do any class you want with that. So you could do, you could try each one that you have. You could just do pole. Yeah. Which that's, I really like that. I don't like that we have to make it complicated. It's simple. You can try everything.

But a lot of people, it's like you have to, you might come in for pole for the first time and you're like, I don't know. And then you try silks and you're like, oh, this is my thing. This is my thing. Mm-hmm. So, um, I think it's just all related aerial arts, it's like very, you know, there are a couple other studios in the area too that have multiple apparatuses.

It just lends itself, you know, you just, you gotta try a little bit of everything.

[00:18:31] Michael Zarick: That's funny.

[00:18:32] AJ Carr-Canary: Yeah.

[00:18:33] Michael Zarick: Uh, you mentioned loving the people and you have said the word community, um, in relation to this space. Can you share a little bit about how you found community for yourself here? Yeah. Um, like, friends that have come out of it, or just like memorable moments where you're like, dang, I'm glad I'm here.

[00:18:53] AJ Carr-Canary: Yeah. I, I mean, I'm, so the, what I can think of is in. So again, the people in in your class, even if they don't know you, they're cheering you on. Right. And I made friends pretty quickly through that and eventually, um, I had to have shoulder surgery. I've actually had both of my shoulders. This is not related to pole don't worry, pole is safe.

But this is, I have a birth defect, so I had to get, I had to get both my shoulders redone. Okay. So, and under four years. Yes.

[00:19:21] Michael Zarick: Yep.

[00:19:22] AJ Carr-Canary: Yeah. So, but I was getting ready to have surgery and I came in one day and everybody had gotten together and made a book bouquet. So it was a bouquet made of books. Mm-hmm. 'cause they knew I was gonna be bored 'cause I wasn't gonna be able to pole for like six months.

And so they made me a bunch of, of book bouquets. That's funny. And of like a whole like self care package. And it was a big surprise. You know, and it's stuff like that when you're an adult, like that stuff doesn't happen usually, you know, and getting, we have like group chats where we go and we just get together and have, you know, a drink somewhere, uh, after a class and we do like cabin trips.

We'll go out and Brown County and set up an outdoor pole and like do aerial for a weekend. It's stuff like that where it's like really third spaces as adults are incredibly hard to find.

[00:20:09] Michael Zarick: I mean, you do have to drive over to the airport to find them

[00:20:13] AJ Carr-Canary: whole 30 minutes,

[00:20:14] Michael Zarick: a whole 30

[00:20:15] AJ Carr-Canary: minutes.

It's crazy. And you have to get all the interstate.

[00:20:18] Michael Zarick: Oh my God.

[00:20:19] AJ Carr-Canary: It's terrifying.

[00:20:19] Michael Zarick: I probably need to get new tires in my car.

I don't like driving. This is, I texted, I texted you. I

[00:20:26] AJ Carr-Canary: hear you.

30, 30 minutes,

[00:20:28] Michael Zarick: like my one day, which is why I was like, well, remember when I texted you and I was like, do I, do I get to go to the Fountain Square one or the other one? I was like,

[00:20:34] AJ Carr-Canary: sorry, this

[00:20:35] Michael Zarick: would've better. We're going to the main one.

Although, I'm glad you invited me here, because I imagine the Fountain square one is not as striking.

[00:20:41] AJ Carr-Canary: It's not, um, I'm working on it. It's, it's a work in progress. I also have a very high standard, I really want vi like, uh, one of my instructors said to me one time, AJ, like, before I even took over, she was like, this place doesn't inspire me to dance and I, I wanna be in a place that inspires

me.

[00:20:56] Michael Zarick: This or the other one,

[00:20:57] AJ Carr-Canary: this one before I did anything. And I was like, I love that. And that's really been like a guiding light for me when I make decisions about the studio. I'm like, what does this, is this gonna look cool in a video? Like, is this something that I want to be here to dance? You know, it's, it's simple, but it's like, it's real.

Yeah. Like when you walk in, it used to be a very officey and like millennial gray. It just wasn't very inspiring. I think now you come in, it's just, it's so much cooler.

[00:21:23] Michael Zarick: Mm-hmm.

[00:21:23] AJ Carr-Canary: You know, but that takes time and money. Yeah. In a small business, small person. So I'm doing the best I can.

[00:21:28] Michael Zarick: and I will say, like walking through, there's a door right there.

No. If you're listening, there is a door. It's, uh, listening or watching. It's too, I'm facing it, I don't know. Um, and walking into like this big sort of warehouse-y tall space, 14

[00:21:42] AJ Carr-Canary: feet

[00:21:43] Michael Zarick: with 13,

[00:21:44] AJ Carr-Canary: 14,

[00:21:44] Michael Zarick: 14 poles. Mm-hmm. It was like, oh, it's legit, legit. I'm like, I'm here.

[00:21:49] AJ Carr-Canary: Yeah.

[00:21:49] Michael Zarick: Uh, and you said those garage doors in the back open.

[00:21:51] AJ Carr-Canary: They open and then all the, we can control all these lights. Um, and then when we, sometimes we like, when we want vibes, we like turn off the lights back there. The lights will go to the music. Mm-hmm. And so you can really get a vibe back there for sure.

[00:22:03] Michael Zarick: So I got coffee this morning, uh, and I told them where I was going today.

'cause I like to share what I do with my life.

[00:22:11] AJ Carr-Canary: Yeah. I love

[00:22:11] Michael Zarick: that. And the woman behind the counter goes, oh my god. That exists here. Like, I really want to go do that. What? And I said, well, listen to the podcast. Yeah. Um, but for somebody who has never come to do

[00:22:23] AJ Carr-Canary: Yeah.

[00:22:24] Michael Zarick: Uh, pole dancing or silks or lyra or the other things.

Spiral.

[00:22:29] AJ Carr-Canary: Spiral, yep. That's coming.

[00:22:31] Michael Zarick: Any of those things, like, let's

maybe focus on the pole but like, what would

you tell them about uh, if they're like nervous or, I mean, she shout out to Sophia, she's just like really excited. But for somebody who's maybe a little hesitant,

[00:22:45] AJ Carr-Canary: little nervous,

[00:22:46] Michael Zarick: um, or feels a little weird about it, like, what would you say?

[00:22:50] AJ Carr-Canary: I think you're gonna come in and be in a judgment free zone. And so you don't have to have any prior experience. We meet you where you're at. Mm-hmm. And we, the poles hold up to 400 pounds. We've had up to five girls on a pole before. So they are very, very safe where we check 'em periodically.

again, my background, my background's in engineering, so I do know how to like disassemble and assemble all the poles.

So if you're worried about safety, don't. We got you. And then again, my instructors are just the best in the world. I, I I, I, I got really lucky that I, I inherited and have added on some really amazing instructors who, again, will meet you where you're at and will make you feel comfortable and safe. And it's about having fun.

At the end of the day, you can, it's like you can do a workout, you can work really, really hard, do things as many times as you want. Right. And like, start sweating. Or you can come in and just like, I just wanna vibe today. I just, you know, I'm gonna do what I can. I'm not gonna be too hard on myself and I'm gonna have some fun.

Mm-hmm. And like, I, we can, we can be all of those things for you. So, you know, wherever you're at. I that, I get that call, I get that call a lot where I'm like, they're like, do I need to like, have upper body strength? Like, I don't know, but I'm like, I'm 70 years old and I don't, you know, I wanna try this. And I'm like, grandma, get in here.

Like, we would love to have you in.

[00:24:02] Michael Zarick: Yeah.

[00:24:03] AJ Carr-Canary: Yeah. I actually, once, I had a, a 75-year-old man call me last week and he was like, I just. I'm in pretty good shape and I'd really like to try pole dancing. I've never tried it before. I was like, you know, that's awesome. Sure. John, come on in, we'll take you.

[00:24:16] Michael Zarick: That's incredible.

Uh, question,

[00:24:19] AJ Carr-Canary: answer.

[00:24:20] Michael Zarick: What does it mean to be sexy?

[00:24:23] AJ Carr-Canary: Oh, wow. That could be a whole other podcast,

[00:24:27] Michael Zarick: please.

[00:24:28] AJ Carr-Canary: Oh my gosh,

[00:24:28] Michael Zarick: apple Way.

[00:24:30] AJ Carr-Canary: Yeah. Well, like, it's just so variable to the individual, but for me, sexy is all about how I feel when I look in the Mirror and what my energy is exuding to other people and like how I am flowing and walking through space and how that makes other people feel.

And hopefully that makes, makes 'em feel good.

[00:24:51] Michael Zarick: Apparently it made them like make you start a pole dancing.

[00:24:55] AJ Carr-Canary: I guess so. Yeah. I was being sexy when I wasn't even trying to be sexy. I do think sexy comes naturally to me and it doesn't always come naturally to other people. And, and I think you learn, that's another great thing about this place is you learn things.

[00:25:07] Michael Zarick: You think that's, um. Like society beating you down type thing.

[00:25:10] AJ Carr-Canary: Y absolutely. The patriarchy

[00:25:14] Michael Zarick: don't touch me.

[00:25:16] AJ Carr-Canary: You're a part of it. I'm just kidding. You're not. Yes I am. Unfortunately. Shame. No, I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. But it is absolutely, the patriarchy tells us we can't be sexy. Um, we can't be confident.

We can't take up space. And you can do all of those things here. I want you to take up a lot of space. I want you to be loud. I want you to be sexy in any body type as you are. Come in right now as you are, and we will love you and you will be sexy and you are perfect just the way you are for me. So, um, and I feel very passionate.

I, I'm like getting a little emotional just to get talking about. I feel really passionate about it. 'cause you, you just, I see people come in here and they're so hard on themselves.

[00:25:53] Michael Zarick: I'm one of those people,

[00:25:53] AJ Carr-Canary: you know? And I'm like, I

[00:25:54] Michael Zarick: promise.

[00:25:55] AJ Carr-Canary: And I'm like, God. Like what does that even, how does that even make us enjoy our lives when we're so hard on ourselves?

And we don't allow ourselves to have any fun, or like, oh God, the worst thing. You feel confident that's like, you know what I mean? Like, there's nothing wrong with that. That's a great thing to be confident.

[00:26:10] Michael Zarick: Are you not hard on yourself?

[00:26:12] AJ Carr-Canary: Oh, I'm hard on, I'm terribly hard on myself, but I have these same conversations in the mirror.

You know what I mean? I have a little affirmations app. I work on it.

[00:26:19] Michael Zarick: You're like swiping through your eyes.

[00:26:21] AJ Carr-Canary: I know. I'm just swiping through.

[00:26:22] Michael Zarick: You're sexy.

[00:26:23] AJ Carr-Canary: Yes,

[00:26:23] Michael Zarick: you are.

[00:26:24] AJ Carr-Canary: Uh, why be a saddy when you can be a baddie? You know?

[00:26:28] Michael Zarick: Ooh,

[00:26:28] AJ Carr-Canary: yeah.

[00:26:29] Michael Zarick: I like that. Mm-hmm. Um, that's, sorry. The, uh, so I actually want to delve deeper on this.

Like when, how, how do you carry yourself when you are like in, are you teach classes, right?

[00:26:44] AJ Carr-Canary: Yes. I'm on a break right now because I, uh, really busy. But yeah, I usually teach intermediate heel. Heels is like my baby. I love teaching heels.

[00:26:53] Michael Zarick: So that's, you gotta tell me what that is. Oh

[00:26:55] AJ Carr-Canary: my God, I'm not, I'll show you.

Let's do show and tell. Hold on. My foot's asleep, so hold on.

[00:26:59] Michael Zarick: I am, I am not, uh, invested in this world in the way that I understand. Oh my God.

[00:27:06] AJ Carr-Canary: Okay, so these are my Cinderella heels.

[00:27:10] Michael Zarick: Okay. For those not watching.

[00:27:12] AJ Carr-Canary: Okay. So

[00:27:13] Michael Zarick: yes. Can you, can you, uh, verbally describe what

[00:27:15] AJ Carr-Canary: Absolutely. So these are called p pleasers, and this is a special brand.

This is the whole brand. Um, can, can they see?

[00:27:22] Michael Zarick: Yeah.

[00:27:23] AJ Carr-Canary: Okay. Um, these are eight inch platforms, and you would actually think, you think, oh my god, eight inches. That's crazy. Um, but when you, they also have this platform on top, then they have this here. So the slope of the line here is actually not as intense as you would think it would be.

Mm-hmm. Um, like I would say like five inch regular heels are actually a lot more painful than this. Um, so we, but these are special shoes for dancing, for dancing in the club and for dancing for pole. So they have a special like here, grips, grippy here, resistance here. And then we also do a lot of things on the, this is called the, the toe box

[00:27:56] Michael Zarick: uhhuh.

And even the stiletto is, uh, thick, thicker than ever

[00:27:59] AJ Carr-Canary: thick. I could sprint in these. Like I could,

[00:28:02] Michael Zarick: I could not.

[00:28:02] AJ Carr-Canary: Yeah. Well, you know, we never know. We could, I got some extras in the back. We could try it. Um, so yeah, so this is heels. I teach this class and then I'll teach level three, four. Occasionally. I'm hoping.

So when I graduate in May, I'm hoping to get back on the schedule a little bit more. I just gotta prioritize time.

[00:28:17] Michael Zarick: Yeah. Well, you got business, business and you got business, school, business and you got

[00:28:22] AJ Carr-Canary: Yeah.

[00:28:22] Michael Zarick: People that you manage also. Yes. 20. You got a lot going on.

[00:28:25] AJ Carr-Canary: Plenty of them. I do have a lot going on.

I

[00:28:26] Michael Zarick: love it though. How do you, how does anyone work when the shit's going on outside?

[00:28:30] AJ Carr-Canary: I'm saying, I mean, literally it's, yeah. And you know, I struggle too because I wanna give back to the community. You wanna be involved, but it's such a, being a small business owner in this, with all the politics that are going on, it's changed a lot in the last, like five years too.

I've just watched it just from like watching Ben. It's like, what do you speak on? What do you not speak on? If you don't speak on that, then you get in trouble. But if you do speak on it, you're gonna make people mad. And um, and you didn't speak on it right. The right way. So, uh, I've definitely had some struggles with that.

I, the people who know me know what I'm about and like get it that some people don't. And you know what? They're committed to misunderstanding and that's, it is what it is.

[00:29:12] Michael Zarick: The people who that annoy me the most, may I say I'm saying this, they probably don't listen to podcast, which is part of the annoyance Yeah.

Are the people that I'm aligned with.

[00:29:19] AJ Carr-Canary: Yeah.

[00:29:20] Michael Zarick: That hate on me.

[00:29:21] AJ Carr-Canary: Yeah.

[00:29:22] Michael Zarick: It's like,

[00:29:23] AJ Carr-Canary: no, we're like,

[00:29:23] Michael Zarick: I'm your friend. I dunno.

[00:29:25] AJ Carr-Canary: We're on the same side of the fence, my guys. Uh, yeah, no, I, I agree. I hear you.

[00:29:29] Michael Zarick: We're gonna move on.

[00:29:30] AJ Carr-Canary: Okay.

[00:29:33] Michael Zarick: To what I call a canned question.

[00:29:34] AJ Carr-Canary: Oh, okay.

[00:29:35] Michael Zarick: Yeah. And I'm hoping it

[00:29:37] AJ Carr-Canary: canned or are they? Um, bold questions or are they tin questions?

Because I, when I think canned, I think like in a can. Is that where they come from?

[00:29:49] Michael Zarick: I feel like it.

[00:29:50] AJ Carr-Canary: Okay.

[00:29:52] Michael Zarick: But I've never You

[00:29:54] AJ Carr-Canary: tinned questions.

[00:29:54] Michael Zarick: You're opening up, up. Sorry. I feel like you and I could be

[00:29:58] AJ Carr-Canary: good friends. Actually. You what? You should have a can and then and

[00:30:02] Michael Zarick: like pull

[00:30:02] AJ Carr-Canary: them in. Yeah. And it's a little Third Space Indy can, is it So I know I'm a nerd, so continue

[00:30:10] Michael Zarick: I'm really thinking about this now. I

[00:30:11] AJ Carr-Canary: mean, I like,

[00:30:12] Michael Zarick: I would be cute. I give credence to all ideas. Yeah. Um, city, sorry. Third Space Indy is sponsored by City Rising. City Rising is a social impact studio that leads and supports innovative projects that strengthen, celebrates and repairs people and places.

So if you're a people or you're the leader of a place,

[00:30:34] AJ Carr-Canary: yeah,

[00:30:34] Michael Zarick: and you're interested in improving your built or lived environment, reach out to me and reach out to Mark Latta at cityrising.org and we'll hook you up. That said, Mark has sponsored a question, which is, what is a Third Space to you?

[00:30:49] AJ Carr-Canary: Oh, I love that.

Well, you gave me the definition earlier, so I hate to repeat it, but

[00:30:55] Michael Zarick: say whatever you like.

[00:30:56] AJ Carr-Canary: I mean, to me, Third Space is the place where you find community. So you have right, your home, your work, and then it's essential, in my opinion, to happiness is a Third Space to find community and friend. What are you listening to?

[00:31:15] Michael Zarick: I'm looking at snacks.

[00:31:16] AJ Carr-Canary: Would you like a snack?

[00:31:17] Michael Zarick: I would like a snack, but not at this moment.

[00:31:18] AJ Carr-Canary: Okay.

And we have snacks.

[00:31:23] Michael Zarick: I also just like, I've always, like, historically people have, uh, associated me with like a golden retriever.

[00:31:29] AJ Carr-Canary: Yeah, I could get that.

[00:31:31] Michael Zarick: What kind,

[00:31:32] AJ Carr-Canary: what do I, what do I see? Squirrel. Like

[00:31:33] Michael Zarick: there's

[00:31:33] AJ Carr-Canary: a camera there, it's like, oh yeah, yeah. And I can yell at people through that sometimes. I'm like, Hey, go home.

Um, yeah, that's, I mean, I know that wasn't as eloquently probably as, as I could have been, but really it's a very simple, it's, it's where you find community. Mm-hmm. Is, is my, is what I think of as a Third Space. And it's so funny 'cause I had, I talk about a Third Space, like about DID Fit being people's Third Space where they find that community friendship.

Even before I knew about your podcast, I was like so excited when someone was like, Third Space Cindy. I was like, I this. That's perfect. I was like, yes, we are a Third Space in Indy. So I was really excited. Um,

[00:32:06] Michael Zarick: what about for yourself? 'cause this is your place of work. No. What do you do outside of. Pole.

[00:32:13] AJ Carr-Canary: Yeah, great question.

[00:32:14] Michael Zarick: Or running your business or school? Oh,

[00:32:16] AJ Carr-Canary: there's not

[00:32:16] Michael Zarick: much or any Or helping your husband with meal prep maybe? I don't

[00:32:19] AJ Carr-Canary: know. Oh my god. I have two cats. I have two tortoise shell cats.

[00:32:24] Michael Zarick: Ooh.

[00:32:24] AJ Carr-Canary: So I hang out.

[00:32:25] Michael Zarick: You gotta wait, drop the names.

[00:32:27] AJ Carr-Canary: Uh, Concha and Cinnamon And

[00:32:30] Michael Zarick: Stop.

[00:32:32] AJ Carr-Canary: They're on my leg right here.

And Becca Lerner is who did them, who is a local tattoo artist who also comes to, DID Fit Studio.

[00:32:40] Michael Zarick: Wow.

[00:32:40] AJ Carr-Canary: So she also did my knee. She's amazing. But yeah, these are my two tortoise shell cats. I'm obsessed with them. Cat Lady Fountain Square is known for Rogue Cats. And so One

[00:32:52] Michael Zarick: Fountain Square is known for Rogue Cats.

[00:32:53] AJ Carr-Canary: Yeah, I, that's, I got one from Fountain Square distribution, cat distribution system. So that was Concha, which is Shell in Spanish and she's a tortoise shell cat. And then, um, cinnamon, ironically, that is definitely a stripper name, but my niece named her, so I was like, sure girl. Cinnamon's perfect. So that's great.

I love them. So I do that. I hang out with my cats. Um, I also work, go to the gym. I, um, I used to go to Indy North Mass, but now I go to to YMCA, I lift weights. Um, I love going on walks. I live in

[00:33:22] Michael Zarick: What's your YMCA?

[00:33:23] AJ Carr-Canary: What?

[00:33:23] Michael Zarick: What's your YMCA

[00:33:24] AJ Carr-Canary: City Way.

[00:33:25] Michael Zarick: City Way. YMCA.

[00:33:26] AJ Carr-Canary: Yeah.

[00:33:27] Michael Zarick: Okay. I don't know where that is.

[00:33:28] AJ Carr-Canary: Uh oh really?

It's rip up across from the Alexander downtown.

[00:33:33] Michael Zarick: Wait,

[00:33:33] AJ Carr-Canary: like by Lily?

[00:33:35] Michael Zarick: That's the big, the big, big one.

[00:33:37] AJ Carr-Canary: Yeah,

[00:33:37] Michael Zarick: the big nice one.

[00:33:38] AJ Carr-Canary: The big, yeah.

[00:33:38] Michael Zarick: Is it called the City Way?

[00:33:40] AJ Carr-Canary: Yeah,

[00:33:40] Michael Zarick: I didn't know that.

[00:33:41] AJ Carr-Canary: YMC or ur a maybe Now Irsay it got, it got bought. So nevermind. It used to be coopted, if you're og like me,

[00:33:47] Michael Zarick: like everything else in the city.

Co-opted by the Colts.

[00:33:49] AJ Carr-Canary: That's right. Yeah. Yep. It used to be City way. I think now it's the ce. Okay. Why? But, so I, and I can walk there. So I live, um, in f like Fountain Square Fletcher Place area, so I do a lot of walking. Um, and then I love to read fantasy,

[00:34:02] Michael Zarick: romantasy or like fantasy.

[00:34:03] AJ Carr-Canary: Fantasy. Okay. I'll do a little, I'll do like a light spice, but I don't wanna be too, I don't want too much.

[00:34:09] Michael Zarick: Mm. Are you an Indy Indy book crawl participant this weekend?

[00:34:12] AJ Carr-Canary: No.

[00:34:12] Michael Zarick: Did you know that was happening?

[00:34:13] AJ Carr-Canary: I did not know that was happening. Indy book crawl.

[00:34:16] Michael Zarick: Yeah.

[00:34:17] AJ Carr-Canary: Tell me more.

[00:34:19] Michael Zarick: I don't want to drop an ad for them, especially since this's coming out after it's over, but, uh,

[00:34:24] AJ Carr-Canary: too bad. Ha.

[00:34:25] Michael Zarick: It's basically just like a local event that, uh, connects all the local bookstores to each other, so they all run like deals and like you can walk.

[00:34:33] AJ Carr-Canary: Oh,

[00:34:34] Michael Zarick: Perfect day to do it.

[00:34:35] AJ Carr-Canary: Yeah.

[00:34:35] Michael Zarick: They basically just like drive between all of them and like,

[00:34:37] AJ Carr-Canary: yeah.

[00:34:38] Michael Zarick: Do whatever.

[00:34:38] AJ Carr-Canary: Yeah. I love it. Cool.

[00:34:40] Michael Zarick: Uh, what books are you reading slash have read?

[00:34:44] AJ Carr-Canary: Uh, oh man. Uh, that how long? That could be another podcast, but I, um,

[00:34:50] Michael Zarick: how long are we hanging out?

[00:34:51] AJ Carr-Canary: Yeah, right.

[00:34:52] Michael Zarick: I'm like a, like Wheel of Time.

[00:34:55] AJ Carr-Canary: Yeah.

[00:34:55] Michael Zarick: Brandon,

[00:34:55] AJ Carr-Canary: Brandon. I did Mistborn. Um, so I like, I'll go Epic. To me, that's like epic fantasy.

Mm-hmm. Then, then I, I've gone to the basic bitch fantasy, so I don't know if I can cuss on here. Basic P

[00:35:06] Michael Zarick: you're, I already did

[00:35:07] AJ Carr-Canary: basic B fantasy. Um, so I've read ACOTAR. I actually did DNF the series 'cause I did not. A guitar

[00:35:13] Michael Zarick: is romantic, right?

[00:35:14] AJ Carr-Canary: Yeah.

[00:35:16] Michael Zarick: I don't, I don't know.

[00:35:16] AJ Carr-Canary: I don't know. I mean, it's definitely more ro it's definitely on there.

[00:35:19] Michael Zarick: I don't say that with any judgment. I'm more so just like it.

[00:35:21] AJ Carr-Canary: I think there's definitely like, it's a lot of romance. It, it was actually too much romance. I didn't finish the last book because I was like, stop it. Um, and then I'm reading the Desert Curse Series right now by Shannon Meyer, which is, um, nine book series.

So I'm in it for a while. Mm-hmm. And then I, um, I did Throne of Glass, which I would highly recommend. It's Light on the Spice. Definitely one of the best series I've ever read.

[00:35:41] Michael Zarick: Throne of Glass.

[00:35:42] AJ Carr-Canary: Throne of Glass. Look, I mean, yeah.

[00:35:43] Michael Zarick: Also so many books do, um. Blank of blank

[00:35:47] AJ Carr-Canary: blank of blank pages of book. You know, like, it's, it's also like restaurants.

Like when we were in Chicago, I was like, let's find everything that says like, Bored in Swine, you know?

[00:36:00] Michael Zarick: That's so true.

[00:36:01] AJ Carr-Canary: Cork and fig.

[00:36:03] Michael Zarick: Yeah. Noun and or adjective and noun or noun and noun,

[00:36:06] AJ Carr-Canary: Fork and Bread. I'm like,

[00:36:09] Michael Zarick: that's so funny. So cats and books. That's your like me time,

[00:36:13] AJ Carr-Canary: cats, ka books, exercise. And then I've definitely been working on that, that balance of when I come in here and I'm a student.

'cause I still come in and take classes that I get to be a student. Like, don't let me be just a student. Right. I don't, don't ask me owner questions while I'm in class. Like, let me be AJ. Mm-hmm. And then when I'm done with class, you can ask me like, owner questions. So that's like, that's taking some time to adjust.

'cause I, I have very passionate instructors, very passionate students who like to tell me when things are messed up, which is good, you know? So, yes, I am a student here too. I like to take classes. It's always fun.

[00:36:47] Michael Zarick: Do you ever, um, so you mentioned heel being your like. Your baby baby, you said, do you ever take heel classes?

[00:36:52] AJ Carr-Canary: Oh yeah.

[00:36:53] Michael Zarick: Oh, okay.

[00:36:53] AJ Carr-Canary: Oh yeah.

I'll definitely take heel classes.

[00:36:54] Michael Zarick: Refine the craft.

[00:36:55] AJ Carr-Canary: Refine. You can always learn. And it's, so our heels classes are choreography based, so in our level classes it's like learning the tricks, learning combos of different moves. Building strength heels is choreography. So you like learn a routine in your shoes around the pool.

So I'm always you like they're in the routines are always different based on the instructor and our instructors all have very different styles. So, um, it's really fun. I love taking classes from other instructors. And then occasionally we get workshops in here. So like next weekend we have Simone Dely coming in and she's an incredible master instructors been doing this for like 20 years.

Um, and she's doing 10 workshops over three days. She's insane. I don't know, like, I was like, you sure? She's like, yeah, rip it. I was like, okay. And she's doing like three different apparatuses. She's doing um, roller pole. So it's like roller skates in the pole.

[00:37:44] Michael Zarick: Yeah.

[00:37:44] AJ Carr-Canary: I'm like,

[00:37:45] Michael Zarick: well, okay. Wait, that makes sense to me now.

'cause I thought. The pole had way more resistance. But when you showed me the pole in there,

[00:37:51] AJ Carr-Canary: yeah,

[00:37:51] Michael Zarick: it was spinning. It spins. So like when, if you are on roller kids, you can definitely,

[00:37:55] DidFit-1: you

[00:37:55] AJ Carr-Canary: can whip it.

[00:37:56] Michael Zarick: That sounds again, everything in here terrifies

[00:37:58] AJ Carr-Canary: me. Oh my gosh. You'd be surprised you, you'd love it. I, I guess I do think we have some adrenaline junkies in here though, that's for sure.

[00:38:04] Michael Zarick: I am a low risk activity man.

[00:38:09] AJ Carr-Canary: Is this still for you? We'll keep you down, we'll keep you closer to the ground and you're fine. Or we'll just like slowly wean you up, you know?

[00:38:16] Michael Zarick: That's funny.

[00:38:16] AJ Carr-Canary: Wait,

[00:38:17] Michael Zarick: can you increase the resistance?

[00:38:18] AJ Carr-Canary: No, but I can make you go up higher and I can make you spin faster. We, there's like techniques to spinning faster and spinning slower.

It's centripetal force close to pole you best. We'll see.

[00:38:28] Michael Zarick: It depends on if my wife forces me down here or not.

[00:38:31] AJ Carr-Canary: Oh my God. I would love that. You lemme know. I'll give you, I'll give you and your wife a free class. Don't tell anyone that

[00:38:36] Michael Zarick: next question.

[00:38:37] AJ Carr-Canary: Okay.

[00:38:38] Michael Zarick: I'm glad when we explore,

[00:38:40] AJ Carr-Canary: give it to me,

[00:38:41] Michael Zarick: Related to the previous question, what is a Third Space that has existed for you previously that no longer does

[00:38:49] AJ Carr-Canary: Mm.

[00:38:53] Michael Zarick: In whatever way you want to take that?

[00:38:55] AJ Carr-Canary: Yeah, that's difficult. I will say that I, it still exists, but not in the capacity that it, it did for me. Is that still an answer? I'll explain.

[00:39:06] Michael Zarick: Well, if it's like fallen, fallen out of favor or whatever. Yeah.

[00:39:09] AJ Carr-Canary: So the, the YMCA mm-hmm. Used to be like my, like my girls would go there.

Like I had regular friends. We would all see each other and working out at the same time. And then now all of those people have like moved. Mm-hmm. So it's, now I'm just, it's, it's like, it's like visiting a ghost, kind of, you know? 'cause I go there and I'm, I'm, I work. Or out alone. I don't know anybody in there.

I'm just doing my thing where it used to be like, Hey, Bob, hey Janine, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And it's like, all those people now don't live in India anymore. So it's, and like that's kind of the interesting part about third spaces is like, it's not just a space, right? It's who's in the space with you that makes it that third special space.

Mm-hmm. And so when the people go away, it really just becomes a space again, just space. Not the Third Space.

[00:39:58] Michael Zarick: That was a lovely way of saying that.

[00:40:00] AJ Carr-Canary: Thanks.

[00:40:02] Michael Zarick: No one's ever said it that way, but you're totally right. Um, do you ever feel like you are seeking that again? Or do you find the fulfillment here?

[00:40:09] AJ Carr-Canary: I find the fulfillment here, for sure.

This has been more than anything, like the biggest definition of a Third Space.

[00:40:15] Michael Zarick: So the S-A-Y-M-A is just business.

[00:40:18] AJ Carr-Canary: It's just business. I'm just in and out. I'm just lifted and gone. You know what I'm saying?

[00:40:22] Michael Zarick: That's funny.

[00:40:23] AJ Carr-Canary: This I'm here, I'm not gonna hang out for like, and that, that's like normal. That's actually why I got the, they can't see it.

But I have the, we have this big L couch here that was like, we need to invest in a big comfy couch because it, we never just like, get in here and leave. It's like we sit and we chat, we yap after class. Mm-hmm. You know what I mean? And catch up on things.

[00:40:40] Michael Zarick: Pro yap space.

[00:40:41] AJ Carr-Canary: Yeah. Yeah. Very pro Yap. Super pro. Yap.

Um, or like, people will take multiple classes and they'll like just hang out. 'cause we also have like a microwave and food and snacks so people can like hang out here like all day basically if they wanted to.

Since we're so far away from everything.

[00:40:57] Michael Zarick: Oh my God. It's so, I'm gonna, I'm never gonna,

[00:41:00] AJ Carr-Canary: it's a food desert out

[00:41:00] Michael Zarick: here too.

I'm not gonna let it go to, I mean we are in middle. Don't have to. This is a like a business district.

[00:41:05] AJ Carr-Canary: Oh, industrial park. Yeah. Yeah. But the parking's great and the warehouse size, ling height is amazing. So,

[00:41:12] Michael Zarick: and if parking matters to you, then there is plenty of parking.

[00:41:14] AJ Carr-Canary: It's it, I live downtown. It matters.

[00:41:17] Michael Zarick: It doesn't matter to me.

[00:41:18] AJ Carr-Canary: Oh, wow.

[00:41:19] Michael Zarick: Unless I'm driving all the way over here.

[00:41:21] AJ Carr-Canary: Fair.

[00:41:22] Michael Zarick: Um,

every episode I ask a question from the previous guest.

[00:41:26] AJ Carr-Canary: Oh, okay.

[00:41:27] Michael Zarick: Yeah,

[00:41:27] AJ Carr-Canary: yeah.

[00:41:28] Michael Zarick: The previous guest, uh, who is it? Oh,

[00:41:31] AJ Carr-Canary: was it Anna?

[00:41:31] Michael Zarick: It's Anna.

[00:41:32] AJ Carr-Canary: I know her.

[00:41:34] Michael Zarick: You know her.

[00:41:34] AJ Carr-Canary: Yeah. We went to a, a dinner. I've only met her once.

[00:41:37] Michael Zarick: Wait, you know Anna, and you don't know the Indy Indie book for all.

[00:41:40] AJ Carr-Canary: Yeah. No, I don't.

[00:41:41] Michael Zarick: That's like her, that's,

[00:41:42] AJ Carr-Canary: I know. Well, I know of her. I mean, we've met once, so I mean, I should know her more.

[00:41:45] Michael Zarick: She's like somebody, uh, she's like an Indianapolis person.

[00:41:50] AJ Carr-Canary: I, how to say. So is I love that about her.

[00:41:52] Michael Zarick: So if you live here and you go outside enough, you will eventually come across

[00:41:57] DidFit-1: her.

[00:41:57] AJ Carr-Canary: You'll, you'll see her, you'll and I. That happens. I like met her at a dinner at a companion, which is amazing. I dunno if you've heard of Companion, but you should. Absolutely. Companion. Companion. It's like a, it was like a dinner and art installation all in one. Um, or like art, like, um, exhibit

[00:42:11] Michael Zarick: I think I sort of know.

[00:42:12] AJ Carr-Canary: And it's like on, it was like by Meridian. I'm not a very good steward of it 'cause I've only met a couple times. But it was amazing. It was like really good fellowship, really good community building. And I met her there and then I follow her on Instagram and then I saw her once when she was working at Fruit Rooftop.

[00:42:27] Michael Zarick: Oh. Rooftop Fruit.

[00:42:28] AJ Carr-Canary: Rooftop Fruit in, in Fountain Square. And so I was like, oh, I got, hey. And so then, yeah, I just follow her and I just cheer her on silently from my Instagram.

[00:42:35] Michael Zarick: But she hasn't been in

[00:42:37] AJ Carr-Canary: No, she should, but maybe, you know, I'll have to hit her up now.

[00:42:41] Michael Zarick: Uh,

[00:42:42] AJ Carr-Canary: now that we share, we've both been on the same podcast

[00:42:44] Michael Zarick: question from Anna, which is, what do you feel that Indianapolis is missing?

Take that. Actually, I'm, I'm interested to hear this in every aspect.

[00:42:55] AJ Carr-Canary: Yeah. I mean, that could be a whole nother podcast. Uh, honestly,

[00:43:02] Michael Zarick: that's gonna be the title of the, this episode.

[00:43:06] AJ Carr-Canary: We need another podcast, part one of seven. Um, I, okay. So the first thing that comes to my mind, honestly, is like a really good public transportation system.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[00:43:18] Michael Zarick: That's what's up.

[00:43:19] AJ Carr-Canary: Yeah. I, um, I mean, look, you, you were like, I live out in the middle of no, or I can't come out here 'cause it takes 30 minutes to drive. I was like, wouldn't it be great if I had a, a bus or a tram or something that got us up here, like us around here really quickly and I hate the bus system and

[00:43:35] Michael Zarick: I need to hold you.

Wait, listeners, I love IndyGo. I ride IndyGo regularly. It's a wonderful, powerful bus system. However, it can always improve.

[00:43:46] AJ Carr-Canary: Yes. And, and it

could

[00:43:47] Michael Zarick: improve massively.

[00:43:48] AJ Carr-Canary: It could improve, you know. For just going improv. Yes. And yeah. Um, so that's like the first thing that comes to mind. I, I just, I would really love it.

Honestly, I will say what something we do well is I, I live downtown, so I love, we have very walkable downtown. I walk downtown all the time. Mm-hmm. I feel pretty safe downtown. Um, but I think there's more, we could have more walking paths. I know they're working on it and like, I've seen things change in the last five years.

Um, but yeah, I wish we had, I wish things were more walkable. I wish we were better at even up into the northern Indianapolis region of having busing or tram or some subway, something. Um, yeah, I mean, I wish we were less conservative, but just, I can't really control.

[00:44:32] Michael Zarick: Um, I wanna vocalize, uh, an experience I had recently.

Um, that was like, so it was like a weird revelation. Like a vision of a, of a, of a lost timeline.

[00:44:46] AJ Carr-Canary: Yeah.

[00:44:46] Michael Zarick: So I was, went on, um. A walk and talk with Sampson Levingston ad um, hashtag ad. Um, do you, do you know who that is?

[00:44:56] AJ Carr-Canary: No.

[00:44:56] Michael Zarick: No. Uh, so Sampson is like a local historian. He does,

[00:45:00] AJ Carr-Canary: does he have wear headset and walk around?

[00:45:02] Michael Zarick: He might, he has a speaker. He does a lot of like, local events, but his favorite walk and the one I went on was, um, down Indiana Avenue.

[00:45:12] AJ Carr-Canary: Okay.

[00:45:12] Michael Zarick: Which is a historically black neighborhood that was destroyed.

[00:45:15] AJ Carr-Canary: Oh, yes. I, I learned about that. Like, not like too recently. Mm-hmm. It's embarrassing that I like, didn't, that wasn't taught in schools.

[00:45:22] Michael Zarick: Well, you, yeah.

[00:45:23] AJ Carr-Canary: Sorry. Continue.

[00:45:24] Michael Zarick: No, you right. I didn't interrupt you, but continue. You're totally right. Uh, and a lot of that is based in like, uh, you know, racist policies. Mm-hmm. Redlining and the university pushing them out. Mm-hmm. Um, so there's this beautiful historic black neighborhood here, low rise apartments, streets lined with businesses, and like it was such a dense.

Urban environment. And now when you're down there on that same road, it's like, just like surface parking,

[00:45:53] AJ Carr-Canary: depressing.

[00:45:53] Michael Zarick: It's kind of sad.

[00:45:55] AJ Carr-Canary: Yeah.

[00:45:55] Michael Zarick: Uh, and then you see like Walker Theater, which is Yep. Historically preserved building that's like there as a monument to once what Well once was, and Sampson showed this photo to our group that like really stuck with me.

It was a photo of, I believe it was the 400 block looking towards the circle. Mm-hmm. So you could see the monument in this photo.

[00:46:17] AJ Carr-Canary: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[00:46:19] Michael Zarick: And there was just like people out on the street, there was businesses and signs and cars and whatever. Um, and like looking at this photo, and then when you're standing there now you see the One America building.

[00:46:32] AJ Carr-Canary: Yeah.

[00:46:33] Michael Zarick: And then street level and then like surface parking. That's it.

[00:46:35] AJ Carr-Canary: Yeah. Man.

[00:46:36] Michael Zarick: And I had this like crazy vision of like what Indianapolis could be. Uh, if we had chosen a different path of like this, like amazing either like town home or like multi-family apartments, just like super dense downtown where it's not super skyscraper based, like New York City.

[00:46:57] AJ Carr-Canary: Right.

[00:46:57] Michael Zarick: But just like everything looks like what Indiana Avenue used to, and you could, no matter what diagonal you're on, you could like see the monument from there. And I just like think that sounds so sick.

[00:47:09] AJ Carr-Canary: Yeah.

[00:47:10] Michael Zarick: And I just had like this like weird vision of like what could have been and like we just chose the wrong worst path.

[00:47:17] AJ Carr-Canary: Yeah. I mean really. And well that's like how cool that made the monument look. That it's like that now it would actually be standing out instead of kind of cowering underneath all the skyscrapers.

[00:47:27] Michael Zarick: Its like it really that moment like really stuck with me. Yeah.

[00:47:30] AJ Carr-Canary: I would believe.

[00:47:31] Michael Zarick: yeah. Shout out to Sampson Levingston. That's a great thing to go do if you,

[00:47:34] AJ Carr-Canary: does he do a historical Fletcher Place walk?

[00:47:37] Michael Zarick: Yeah. He does a, a number of different places. Okay. He, I think the two main ones he, he might continue is Indiana Avenue and then Irvington.

Um, but he does a lot of them. Okay. So he does like Butler Talkington and Mountain Square and all.

[00:47:48] AJ Carr-Canary: Okay. But I think he walks right by my house.

[00:47:50] Michael Zarick: Mm-hmm.

[00:47:51] AJ Carr-Canary: With his, with this group. Yeah. And it's really funny because we are in between two historic homes. Uh, so he'll be like, and this one, blah, blah, blah, blah.

And he's like, and this one we're like, Hey, because we used to just be a garage that like, they like build up in 2018, so we're not historic. And so he just like walks up past our house.

[00:48:08] Michael Zarick: That's funny. Yeah, I just, I just think a lot about that in, uh, yeah. What else do you think Indianapolis is missing? Anything else?

[00:48:15] AJ Carr-Canary: I mean, I'm sure it's missing a lot of things, but off the top of my head, you know, I, we have some great restaurants. I will say we could have more, um, more like in like more ethnic restaurants too.

I'm we're, you can find them, but it's a little bit harder to find them.

[00:48:31] Michael Zarick: I'm working on that.

[00:48:31] AJ Carr-Canary: Yeah. Oh, like I can tell you some places my husband and I are a big foodies and we like to, um, find new restaurants and we're not afraid, we're not afraid to go in some places that maybe we shouldn't.

[00:48:43] Michael Zarick: terms

[00:48:43] AJ Carr-Canary: of like, I got an Ethiopian place for you.

[00:48:45] Michael Zarick: Is it Lette? In Jira Cafe, is

[00:48:48] AJ Carr-Canary: it? I think yes. Yes, yes. I think so.

[00:48:49] Michael Zarick: I know, I know a

[00:48:50] AJ Carr-Canary: lot of

[00:48:50] Michael Zarick: restaurants.

[00:48:51] AJ Carr-Canary: Maybe I got it from Amanda and Indy and maybe that's where I got it from. Probably. But she, did she post? Probably. Okay. 'cause, but yeah, no, that was fire. I love, I love Ethiopian food and so

[00:48:58] Michael Zarick: I also love Ethiopian food.

[00:48:59] AJ Carr-Canary: It's good. We should have had Ethiopian food while we're trying to talk

[00:49:03] Michael Zarick: next time.

[00:49:04] AJ Carr-Canary: Yeah. My nails, I actually, I have to wear gloves when I eat Ethiopian food 'cause it gets underneath my nails.

[00:49:09] Michael Zarick: That's so real.

[00:49:10] AJ Carr-Canary: It's actually kind of smart.

[00:49:11] Michael Zarick: That's why I keep my nails, uh, incredibly. Not

[00:49:14] AJ Carr-Canary: just for Ethiopian food.

[00:49:15] Michael Zarick: Just very

[00:49:17] AJ Carr-Canary: specific. Uh,

[00:49:18] Michael Zarick: is there anything else you wanna talk about?

[00:49:20] AJ Carr-Canary: Oh man. I don't know

[00:49:21] Michael Zarick: what's on your mind.

[00:49:22] AJ Carr-Canary: I think owning a business is a lot harder than people think it is.

I think. I didn't even realize how hard it was gonna be. And I think people have expectations of a small business owner akin to what a corporate company can be. So I think I do

[00:49:42] Michael Zarick: that,

[00:49:43] AJ Carr-Canary: you know, so it's like you think,

[00:49:44] Michael Zarick: I don't, I don't voice it, but I think I do that.

[00:49:45] AJ Carr-Canary: It's like really, when I wear all of the hats, it's hard to be on it all the time and perfect all the time, and people expect it.

Mm-hmm. Um, and they expect discounts and they expect free things. And I try my best. But yeah, I think that's been the hard, or like, you know, oh, you're my friend. Gimme, gimme a free membership. And I'm like, I, I. I can't do that otherwise, like we're, I have to keep the doors open and being like financially savvy.

There's so much about a business that they don't teach you in school unless you go to school for business.

[00:50:18] Michael Zarick: Yeah.

[00:50:18] AJ Carr-Canary: You know, and even then you kind of have to still figure it out on your own. Every state is different. All the laws, all the taxes. Like it's a, it's such, it's a challenge. And then for Ariel, all the safety things you have to have, like, you can't, I take that stuff very, very seriously.

[00:50:33] Michael Zarick: Well, like, it's so funny that you say that. 'cause I think about, um, well when I was first starting the podcast

[00:50:39] AJ Carr-Canary: mm-hmm.

[00:50:40] Michael Zarick: Like the idea of my conversations or the reason I started having them initially was because I was thinking about what it would take to start a business.

[00:50:48] AJ Carr-Canary: Yeah.

[00:50:49] Michael Zarick: That was like a Third Space.

Uh, and I quickly understood. That I didn't want to start one.

[00:50:56] AJ Carr-Canary: It's so much work.

[00:50:57] Michael Zarick: And I was like, this is, that doesn't make sense.

[00:50:59] AJ Carr-Canary: And I'm privileged. 'cause I, I got a, um, you know, I inherited the business, right? I didn't have to start it from scratch like, like Meg did, the previous owner. And so I, you know, got inherited for better or worse.

But like, that's, it's the same with, um, Nexus now DID Fit Fountain Square. But yeah, it's just been, um, yeah, it's really, really, really challenging. It can be very, very rewarding, but I think one of the things is like, it, just because you're a good pole dancer doesn't mean you're gonna be a good Pole studio owner.

[00:51:30] Michael Zarick: Mm.

[00:51:31] AJ Carr-Canary: And that's the same with like, I think that's what the hard part about Third Space is, is you wanna make a Third Space because you're really passionate about something and, but passion doesn't akin to being successful in that business, unfortunately.

[00:51:42] Michael Zarick: Yeah, definitely. And like every business also has like, or every like organization, not even, I don't even want to lead it to businesses.

Every organization has like this like. There are, like you said, safety things like random stuff that you would never have thought of until it comes up.

[00:51:59] AJ Carr-Canary: Yeah. Right. Until you watch somebody fall and you're like, oh God, we need, you know, well, that's never happened, but like, you know what I mean? Like, it's just you don't want, you want people safe.

[00:52:09] Michael Zarick: Yeah.

[00:52:09] AJ Carr-Canary: 14 feet and the insurance is not cheap. Not cheap. So, yeah. Yeah. That's about all I got, I think. Have you, uh, have you heard of Fugler?

[00:52:20] Michael Zarick: Is that

[00:52:21] AJ Carr-Canary: what

[00:52:21] Michael Zarick: that No,

[00:52:24] AJ Carr-Canary: I'm spreading the Fugler

[00:52:25] Michael Zarick: gospel. I feel, I feel like I shouldn't talk about that. That thing is, uh, not cute, but it is weird.

[00:52:35] AJ Carr-Canary: It is a fler,

[00:52:35] Michael Zarick: what do you call this?

[00:52:37] AJ Carr-Canary: Uh, that is a banana, uh, a Slingback.

[00:52:39] Michael Zarick: Oh, okay.

[00:52:40] AJ Carr-Canary: Sling back. It's a type of, not a banana underwear. No, no. Banana hammock would be if it was just like a, uh, I don't, I don't know if this is, this is, I think genderless so we can. Say that it's,

[00:52:48] Michael Zarick: this is a visual only part of the podcast.

[00:52:50] AJ Carr-Canary: Yeah. Sorry. You can't see this.

It's a green fuggler. Look it up. Anyway, we have, I've started collecting them around the studio. Um,

[00:52:56] Michael Zarick: is this the new labubu?

[00:52:57] AJ Carr-Canary: It is, but it's not because labu boos are expensive and they don't look ridiculous like these. Yeah. It's the teeth. It's, and they've got porcelain teeth. Um,

[00:53:07] Michael Zarick: that's kind of horrifying.

[00:53:08] AJ Carr-Canary: I've been single handedly trying to get everybody obsessed with Fugler because they're also, they're very cheap. They're like literally like $6. So everybody, it's inclusive, right? Everybody can get a fler if they'd like. So don't you feel like a fler So days I feel like a fugler and I want to know that I'm still loved.

And here at Debit Studio you are, you can come as a Fuggler and we will love you and welcome you

[00:53:32] Michael Zarick: tagline

[00:53:34] AJ Carr-Canary: for your

[00:53:34] Michael Zarick: fucking self. That's gonna be your intro. Uh, AJ what question would you like to ask the next Third Space Indy guest?

[00:53:46] AJ Carr-Canary: W what are you more afraid of? Outer space or the deep ocean?

[00:53:52] Michael Zarick: God, that is horrifying.

Guaranteed. For me, outer space is not even, well, you what? Okay. Well, actually, okay. This is interesting. When you talk about fear, see, this is gonna be another, we talk about a whole other podcast

when those billionaires died in the submarine. Yeah.

[00:54:10] AJ Carr-Canary: Mm-hmm.

[00:54:11] Michael Zarick: That's like, I don't wanna do that. I have no interest in going into the ocean. I have deep, deep philoso. Phia. Do you know what that is?

[00:54:20] AJ Carr-Canary: Uh, fear. Fear of big things.

[00:54:20] Michael Zarick: Fear of deep waters.

[00:54:21] AJ Carr-Canary: Deep waters. Okay.

[00:54:22] Michael Zarick: Um, and I got that from Mario 64.

[00:54:25] AJ Carr-Canary: Mario 64.

[00:54:28] Michael Zarick: Yes.

There's a, there's a level in Mario. There's the, there's the eel. Uh, you have to like clean its teeth. No, that's, that's, that's Sunshine. There's, there is an eel and you have to like, avoid it.

[00:54:39] AJ Carr-Canary: Okay. To

[00:54:39] Michael Zarick: get that, that makes

[00:54:39] AJ Carr-Canary: more sense. Sense. Um, clean,

[00:54:41] Michael Zarick: just like deep water level. That like scared me to shit. Yeah.

When I'm like six or seven.

[00:54:46] AJ Carr-Canary: Oh my God. Um,

[00:54:47] Michael Zarick: we're

[00:54:47] AJ Carr-Canary: unpacking some stuff here. This is good. Let out.

[00:54:49] Michael Zarick: So like water. I do not play with that. However, when you start thinking about space

[00:54:54] AJ Carr-Canary: Yeah. The final frontier,

[00:54:56] Michael Zarick: it's so infinite.

[00:55:00] AJ Carr-Canary: This is true.

[00:55:00] Michael Zarick: And it's beyond infinite. Like there's, there is space in space that we don't even understand beyond the observable universe.

Yes. And they call it observable because there's space beyond it. Because we can't see it.

[00:55:11] AJ Carr-Canary: Yeah.

[00:55:12] Michael Zarick: That's I like.

[00:55:13] AJ Carr-Canary: But the same as with the ocean

[00:55:14] Michael Zarick: kinda. And when you start to think about it, it's not fun.

[00:55:17] AJ Carr-Canary: Why did NASA stop exploring the ocean? They just like stopped. Have you heard about that?

[00:55:21] Michael Zarick: Yeah. What's down there?

[00:55:22] AJ Carr-Canary: What's, what is down there? I think to, if you needed to narrow down the question, you could say like, are you, would you rather it be in a submarine? To explore the deep ocean or be in like a spaceship and explore like to Mars and back.

[00:55:34] Michael Zarick: I'm not, I'm not expanding the question. I think the simple ask is good.

[00:55:38] AJ Carr-Canary: Well, I don't know if people are gonna ask details, but yeah, that's one of my favorite questions to ask people.

[00:55:43] Michael Zarick: Amazing.

[00:55:43] AJ Carr-Canary: Yeah. Thanks.

[00:55:44] Michael Zarick: Cool. Well, thank you so much for joining me.

[00:55:46] AJ Carr-Canary: Thank you for having me. I'm so glad you took the long drive the drove road trip.

[00:55:52] Michael Zarick: I'll continue to sha you. It. It is a literally a fourth of the drive.

There's I, my mom and I'm from Louisville, Kentucky.

[00:55:59] AJ Carr-Canary: Yeah.

[00:55:59] Michael Zarick: A fourth of the drive to Louisville. It's

[00:56:02] AJ Carr-Canary: ridiculous.

[00:56:02] Michael Zarick: Is to get to the south side of

[00:56:03] AJ Carr-Canary: you must be north side of Broadville. Then

but it's just the infrastructure man. There's just no easy way to get here from Broad Ripple.

Yeah. You know what I mean? That's

[00:56:11] Michael Zarick: why we need public transit.

[00:56:13] AJ Carr-Canary: Retweet

[00:56:15] Michael Zarick: AJ. Tell people where they can find you or DID Fit Studio.

[00:56:19] AJ Carr-Canary: You can find us on our website www.didfitstudio.com. You can also find us on Instagram. DID Fit Studio and then is it

[00:56:28] Michael Zarick: DID Fit?

[00:56:29] AJ Carr-Canary: No.

[00:56:30] Michael Zarick: Okay.

[00:56:30] AJ Carr-Canary: It's just DID Fit Studio.

D-I-D-F-I-T-D-I-D-F-I-T-S-T-U-D-I-O.

[00:56:35] Michael Zarick: Ooh.

[00:56:36] AJ Carr-Canary: Period. And we are at two locations. You can find us at 5 5 4 5 West Raymond Street, suite F, Indianapolis, Indiana. That's the one very far from Broad Ripple. It's not that. And then you can also find us at 1 3 1 5 Shelby Street, suite five in Fountain Square.

[00:56:52] Michael Zarick: Both of them are far from Broad.

[00:56:53] AJ Carr-Canary: Both of them are, could be far, but worth the drive, right?

[00:56:57] Michael Zarick: Yeah.

[00:57:00] AJ Carr-Canary: Right.

[00:57:01] Michael Zarick: It seems worth it.

[00:57:02] AJ Carr-Canary: Yeah.

[00:57:03] Michael Zarick: Just based on the 20

[00:57:03] AJ Carr-Canary: series, we get people who drive from Bloomington.

[00:57:05] Michael Zarick: Oh my God.

[00:57:05] AJ Carr-Canary: Yeah. So

[00:57:06] Michael Zarick: it's just as far as it is from Broad.

[00:57:08] AJ Carr-Canary: Yeah. It's an hour isn't almost.

[00:57:10] Michael Zarick: Um, hey, thanks for watching or listening to this episode of Third Space Indy. You can find. Third Space Indy on Instagram at Third Space, Third Space Indy or by going to Third Space Indy dot com.

Third Space Indy is sponsored by Marc Lata. Shout out to you for sponsoring the podcast, not sponsored by Mark Latta. It's sponsored by Cityrising.org . Shout out to Mark Latta. Uh, and once again, thank you as always to the local artist Jennasen for allowing me to use your song Scared Rabbit as the intro song.

Uh, thanks for watching.

[00:57:43] AJ Carr-Canary: Thank you.

[00:57:44] Michael Zarick: Goodbye. Bye. Hey, come to DID Fit.

[00:57:46] AJ Carr-Canary: It's very Cindy

[00:57:50] Michael Zarick: Woo. Okay, cool.